Waking Up is an open source movie about a positive future for humanity, for a change. The manuscript is available online and anyone can contribute to and comment on it. Welcome! We are starting to get quite far on the story now, but there’s always room for more ideas and feedback. More info.
The scene above acts as a short film to show the concept of the movie. It may or may not be in the final movie. Cast in the scene: Ben: Katene Nicholas. Aweena: Sara Lahne. Script, director, editor: Harald Sandø. If you have trouble watching the clip here, or would like to contribute with a translation, you can go to the YouTube version. The scene won the Official Selection in the Cinema Out Of Your Backpack festival.
What Can You do?
Waking Up is about a positive future set about 100 years from now. What will the world look like then IF Humanity chooses a positive route starting from today? What will a film look like when we apply optimistic realism to the script? Can we make it exiting? Endearing? Compelling? If you like this concept and want to help out, there are several things you can do:
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- Contribute. If you think you have some thoughts about how this film can be, go to the guideline page for more info and then on to the google document collection.
- Donate. To donate, click the button to the right. We haven’t set up a budget for this film yet, but want to make a film that really shows this possible future, and we want it to look real, believable and high quality, which will require a significant budget.
The Film
Waking Up is about a former businessman, who chose cryogenic preservation of himself in 2012, in the hope that humanity once might be able to thaw him up and cure his disease some time in the future. And this is exactly what happens.
One hundred yeas later the world has gone through massive changes towards the positive. Both technology and human values has developed into a whole new world, positive in all aspects for humanity. One of the aspects is that money and property is gone, and people do things for other reasons than trading and hoarding wealth. Waking Up is about Ben’s experiences in this world and the difficulties he faces in waking up to this new reality.
In the scene above, Ben is walking in the woods with his newly acquainted guide, Aweena. He has only been awake for a few days, after several weeks of curing and restituting his body while he was asleep. He is a bit confused, and can’t really understand what has happened. He feels somewhat attracted to this new world and to Aweena, but at the same time he has trouble believing it is real.
Non-Profit
The film is a non-profit venture where any profit of this film will go towards a fund aimed at creating the world the film describes. In effect, this can mean to make more films, buy land, build villages and cities, and inform the greater public about these new possibilities for humanity.
Sweden, June 2011
Harald Sandø
February 20, 2012 at 2:50 am
One thought on the idea of Transition is that I think long before you have cities like Jacque Fresco describes in his Venus Project, is you will have things like the EarthShip Communities such as you have in Say Tyler Texas and Taos New Mexico.
These buildings are very similar in some concepts to what the Venus Project is envisioning and they are generally centred around a communal Effort to be self sufficient and produce all their own food and resources.
Here are some links for those that want to check them out.
Texas Community
www.biotechturetraining.com/index.html
The Taos Community where it all started
earthship.com
February 20, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Yes, I know about them. I’m thinking the future in the film will be a mix of these kinds of communities, new more ‘Venus Project’ like cities and still some parts of old cities, though highly modernized.
February 20, 2012 at 12:00 am
Are you guys going to be running a kickstarter or other crowd sourced campaign for this?
February 20, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Yes, eventually. But we need more followers first. A subscriber list of 10.000 would have helped….
February 18, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Hey awesome film and some great ideas.
Theirs alot of talk about vibrations and the like. Until we have an RBE and can devote some unbiased research into the “spiritual” we aught to tone it down. The majority of scientists and engineers (people we need most) will be scared away if half of us are gibber gibbering about auras vibrations and whatnot. An RBE is a practical scientific solution and it needs to be presented and represented in that way or we loose.
February 8, 2012 at 9:58 pm
SO COLLABORATORS, ARE YOU UP FOR MAKING THE WAKING UP MOVIE SCRIPT REAL OPEN SOURCE? I REALLY HAVE TO ASK YOU, SINCE EVERYTHING THAT’S WRITTEN IN THE DOCUMENTS IS NOT MINE. I GUESS YOU ARE OK WITH IT, BUT I’D LIKE TO BE ASSURED. THE DOCUMENTS I THINK MAKING OPEN SOURCE ARE ‘THE WORLD’, ‘THE STORY’ AND ‘THE SCRIPT’, BOTH THE SANDBOX AND AND NON-SANDBOX VERSIONS. THE CREATIVE COMMONS LICENSE I HAVE IN MIND IS THIS: creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/
February 8, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Well of course. What other form of licensing would we want to use, if we all advocate RBE?
February 11, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Looks like we go for the Creative Commons ‘Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/)’ for the script. This means that I for all practical reasons have to be the ‘copyright holder’ since the license requires one person/legal entity to be that. I am planning to start a non-profit in Sweden that can take over this role, but for now it will be me. This in turn will mean that all script collaborators (including me) in reality is donating their contributions to this project. I will include this in the ‘contribution rules and guidelines’. It looks like everyone are ok with this, but here’s a last chance to state your opinion.
February 8, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Looks awesome, but doesn’t appear to be actually open source. You might want to look into what open source means, but unless you are publishing all of your source film footage and production materials to something like the public domain or the creative commons, this wouldn’t qualify. Being able to write in to the core creative team with suggestions and making various contributions is not an example of open source. While I love your movie, I strongly urge you to either remove mentionings of “open source” in your marketing, or publish all of the source files used to create this movie freely/libre under something like the “creative commons” lisence and allow anyone, to use the raw footage for their own remixing and derrivitive works and basically really make this an open source project. Otherwise, while still fitting the definition of totally awesome, this is just not open source. For example, I don’t need anyone’s permission to get and modify a copy of the source code to Linux and make and republish it with my own modifications as I see fit, without having to contact any authority. All I have to do is grab a copy of the freely published files and adhere to the lisence standards. Anyways, best of luck, cool movie.
February 8, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Thanks for your praise. But you are completely right, Kao, and we’ve had that discussion before here. Open source can’t be ‘all rights reserved’. So far it has meant ‘open collaboration’.
I think it’s about time we take a deeper look into the different creative commons licenses and choose one for this project. I personally have no problem doing it. The only thing that has held me back a little is ‘what the other collaborators would think’ and ‘what investors/funds/film industry’ would think.
At this point we have gathered enough collaborators, I should think, to get an opinion from them (except, the last time I tried to get one, there was very little response. Maybe i just have to cut through).
When it comes to investors/funds/film industry I have no clue what they will say about investing in/supporting an open source film project, but I guess we just have to take our chances. The film industry is so full of ‘rights this’ and ‘rights that’, and if the script is something ‘anyone’ can go and make a film out of, where would their ROI be?
In any case, the film is all about an ‘open source society’, so to not be hypocrites, I think we simply have to make the jump and hope for the best.
The ‘worst thing’ that can happen is that someone takes the script and makes a movie out of it, and honestly, what is better than that? It doesn’t stop anyone else to make another movie from the same script. And then we have two interpretations that
By the way, at the moment there’s not much footage to talk about with this film. It is the script that is open source at the moment. I don’t mind someone making something nice out of the existing footage, though, but that’s not really the point.
February 8, 2012 at 10:13 pm
That’s awesome Harald. I’m all for that. The link you put up looks like a good start, it seems to be working well for other projects. I’d fully read into it, make sure you can still apply to film festivals or whatever current plans may be, etc. Best of luck, can’t wait, and open collaboration is really a great step forward, thanks
February 8, 2012 at 8:24 am
Thank you so much for taking an initiative in making this film. Its the need of the hour. Just read the script and its fantastic.
February 8, 2012 at 10:38 am
Well, thank you! Far from finished, but getting there…
February 8, 2012 at 3:44 am
A Thought or Reminder To The Writers,
This may been have mentioned already. If so, I missed it and I offer my apologies for the redundancy:
I think the RBE should be thought of as a character, not just a setting. By that I mean, it needs to intertwine within the story and interact with the characters as much as possible. It should not just be a sideshow. The characters and story shouldn’t be interchangeable to the RBE. It all needs to sync up and make the audience think, “those characters and that story couldn’t have been a more perfect fit to that setting.”
Happy Writing!
February 8, 2012 at 10:39 am
Very good point Andrew.
Everybody, listen up!
February 8, 2012 at 1:24 am
Hello Harald,
I applaud you idea and vision for this film.
May I suggest an additional scene with Ben and his daughter before being cryogenically frozen. He makes a promise that he’ll always be with her.
With tears streaming down her sweet little face, she begs, “Daddy…. please come back to me when you wake up. I’m scared.”
This may help set up the motivation for Ben to relentlessly search for her in 2112 .
Best Regards,
John
February 8, 2012 at 10:36 am
Thank you, good idea!
This is a little detail that can have big consequences in the film and can help it move forward.
This is what we need folks, more ideas like this….
More “plot points”…
Keep ‘em coming!
February 3, 2012 at 6:46 pm
I reply here since we can’t reply any more to the long topic below
You asked a very big question: “How will the transport of the future look like?”
Surprisingly – I can give you some easy answers.
Yes, the ET3 system seems very possible. It would be nice to see it someday.
All “cars” will be fueled by HYDROGEN.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=woOtOuWnB1E
It leaves NO EMISSIONS (the by-product is WATER), it stores lot’s of power and moreover – hydrogen can be easy produced on-site from fresh water. It is also a lot safer that petroleum and it is better than electric-cars in many ways.
Most likely the cars will be hydrogen-electric hybrids.
You may also find interesting that the “canister” that will contain the hydrogen will be a rock.
Yes – a rock.
All future “cars” (as-well as other means of transport) will be automatically driven.
I’am quoting “Cars” because, the concept of what we think is a “Car” will change. Most transport will be replaced by so called “Podcars” which is a “Personal rapid transit system”.
I could explain it, but it’s easier to see it with you’r own eyes:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7hgipbHBK8
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_rapid_transit
www.global-its.org/
When united, people will finally, create the engineers dream.
The “Trans Global Highway”.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_Global_Highway
www.didik.com/highway/
New types of planes, based on new concepts of air-flow will be developed, that will use only a fraction of the fuel it uses today, and will be totally silent:
www.enjoyspace.com/en/news/nasa-s-airplanes-of-the-future
However – only time will tell on how much (and how) this will change.
They will not use conventional fuel (since there will be non of if at 2112), but will be propelled by methane, hydrogen or electricity.
Most likely, airships will be popular again.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm_d0P4cMcw
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5K1ZDs-li0
However, there will be a completely new popular type of air-transport, called “SSTO”. Those are basically “planes” that can go into Earth’s orbit without rockets, and be anywhere in the world in a mater of minutes…or send tourist to orbital hotels, or the Moon.
www.flightglobal.com/blogs/hyperbola/assets_c/2009/02/skylon_orbit_3l-thumb-560×373-26173.jpg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-stage-to-orbit
I think that covers the basics. Is there something more I can answer?
February 3, 2012 at 7:54 am
As a fellow film producer, I aplaud your efforts in the making of this film. Your trailer is very well done and inspiring. It really gets the creative juices flowing. Thank You.
With that said, I see a future where we will all become part of One. Science meets Spirituality. In your research please visit (forgive me if you already have) these links: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JiYLR0tSp4&feature=player_embedded
www.greggbraden.com/
I believe in the future we will learn how to alter particles as One. Our heart gives out a powerful electromagnetic frequency that can radiate out for meters and even miles. We are participators in the creative process of the Universe. When we learn how to be at peace inside our “self”, love our “self”, not hurt our “self”, then and only then will we truly understand how not to hurt everyone and everthing else in our universe. I hope these thoughts will help in your research. This I believe would make your film truly stand out from the typical Syfi type movies about the future.
Thank You. Peace & Love Within and with All.
Ron
February 3, 2012 at 11:21 am
Thank you Ron! Yes, I believe in those exact things myself. The Oneness, the Self, and that Humanity is on the verge of a shift to a higher frequency and vibration. Lower vibrational levels will be left behind.
I have read a little of Gregg, and a lot of others and the general information about this. I definitely want to include stuff like this in the film to make it deeper.
I am glad people like you now start to show up, as I think it has been a bit too big emphasis on the technological scifi part. Still, I see a beautiful marriage between human spirit and technology.
Truly, our technology and how we use it is only a result of our combined consciousness.
February 18, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Greetting Harald
Thanks for considering my thoughts on combining science and technology with the vibrational / spiritual in the film. A number of scientists are starting to look deeply into this and are realizing that there is something there. We are all part of that. Particles react to it.
Here’s an Idea: You could perhaps include this in the movie by having some kind of future technology that can measure / tap into this vibration in order to manifest or create things from particles for the good of humanity. Perhaps this could be part of the “waking up” process for Ben to learn this. He discovers how the world is not about material / monetary things being primary, but our needs and happiness come from pure vibrational energy transforming things into matter.
Perhaps its just an ordinary part of everyday life and Ben has to get accustomed to it. He asks if he can do this too. Aweena tells him “yes you can”. But Ben soon learns that he can only tap into it if it doesn’t involve greedy misuse.
You could present this in a way that doesn’t sound too preachy, (definately not religious) not too supernatural in order to maintain a large audience and interest. Hope this helps and my explaination was understandable.
Love & Peace
Ron
February 20, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Hi Ron,
It’s an interesting proposition. Still, we would need some more ‘meat on the bone’ for that to be plausible.
Even though, water already reacts to human thought and produces beautiful crystals when exposed to positive thoughts and words (love, gratitude, etc), while it only gets murky while exposed to negative thoughts and words (hate, anger, etc).
Maybe this can be a way of showing this…
February 20, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Thanks Harald
I have found that in a fear based system, its easy to make a zombie movie, horror movie, some type of action packed violent, materialistic film and get people to watch. But to get people to watch a film about a positive future based on harmony, love, and connection will take some creative thinking. It will truly be a beautiful thing if we can pull it off. 
We would want to keep the viewer engaged, involved and make them believe that all of this is absolutely possible. Make them believe that we can change our world, change our future right now. The movie I feel needs to move people so much that they walk out of the theater longing to be part of something like that. Perhaps a brochure could be handed to them showing how they could participate. The late comedian Bill Hicks said about our future “we can change it anytime we want” Each individual has to make a choice! Love is always a choice! That’s what makes it love. You might find some of the information I have provided on connectedwithlove.org helpful on this. “Love with work, will work!”
I agree with your “more meat on the bone” comment
On your other point, I find the research on how water reacts to thought, emotion and heart frequencies so fascinating. Especially how good thoughts align and bad thoughts don’t. Kind of like what I was saying how Ben discovers that he can only tap into it if it doesn’t involve greedy misuse.
I think in the the future we will discover our true potential.
I’ve also been researching lately the pine cone shaped pineal gland deep in the middle of our brains. Ancients called it the third eye and it even has the same makeup as the retina. Here’s a video I posted about it on my website: connectedwithlove.org/sharelove/video/view/81 Perhaps that’s how Aweena is able to view images in her mind when on the CD. It taps directly into her pineal gland and she visualizes them in her mind.
Could it be in the future we will be able to make our transportation move with pure thoughts. Interesting stuff.
People have been programmed in this system to believe that they are weak and must depend on the system (be enslaved) in order to live. We have to help people to wake up and realize that they are more than that. That they were born to be someone else and not what the system made them into. Then we can change the future.
Forgive the long comment my Friend. I hope something in here will help.
Love & Peace
Ron
January 31, 2012 at 10:13 am
I’am a futurist and I have some Ideas that you might like. Here is a short list. Respond if you like them, and I will make more:
1. Everyone talks in LOJBAN. —> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojban
Sure – everyone knows they’r national language (English, Polish, German, Chinease etc.) , but when it comes to talking to someone from another country, they will most likely speak in the “Logical-language”.
2. Food printers (Food synthesizer) will provide a healthy and tasty meal . —> inhabitat.com/mits-digital-food-printer-creates-nutritious-meals/2/
This machine CREATES the food by combining proteins, lipids and sugars (extracted from simple algae), adding taste-molecules and vitamins, just like our microwave today. (in fact – you can use a microwave in the movie). Food of the future will be always tasty.
3. Everyone drinks Syntohol instead of regular alcohol. —> www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6874884/Alcohol-substitute-that-avoids-drunkenness-and-hangovers-in-development.html
It has no negative-effects. There are no drunk’s in the future.
4. No more killing animals for meat. You can grow synthetic meat in a bioreactor.
—> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_meat
5. No more transplantology. A Bio-Printer will “create” you a new organ from you’r cell’s. —> www.organovo.com/news/press/17
6. Bio-Chips (in you’r left hand) will check you’r vital signs, and search for certain anti-bodies. You will know if you are sick (and start treating yourselve) before you feel the first sympthoms. If you faint or be in a bad shape – the chip will call for 911 to help you.
7. A list of colonized space-bodies at the time of the movie:
The Moon – with a large city in it’s North Pole, that mines Helium-3 for the nuclear reactors on Earth.
L5 Point – a gigantic space-base that will forever station in the point where Earth’s and Moon’s gravity are equal. Huge manufacturing and scientific place. Spaceships of the future are made there. It will also be a sensor facility for SETI.
Mars – There are several colonies that are preparing Mars to be our 2nd home. They also mine Deuterium, Thorium and CREEP elements there and sends them to Earth in a transporter ships called MARS CYCLER’s —> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_cycler
Phobos – Mars moon. A little logistic base, that transports cargo and crew to/from Mars.
Asteroid belt behind Mars – mined by automated drones. They have practically UNLIMITED RESOURCES, and can be mined for thousands of years by man, to ensure that humans have all the resources they need.
8. Claytronics furniture – you buy one, you have them all.
—> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claytronics
9. Nanofabricator…just like in StarTrek, but true:
—> www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqyZ9bFl_qg
10. Electronic tatoos popular. You can print electronics systems inside you’r skin using conducting electricity ink. In other words – you can have a TV displayed BY YOUR HAND. —> walyou.com/program-your-digital-tattoo-designs-to-present-an-image-mood-or-reminder/
If you are interested in some new idead, Iam glad to help:
marco2001@o2.pl
February 1, 2012 at 12:14 am
Wow Marko, Thank you!
Lot’s of interesting stuff here. Much that I hadn’t heard of before. I’m hoping we have some kind of ‘free energy’ though, so we don’t have to rely on nuclear power. Something derived from magnets, the Rodin coil or the Bashar space time antenna.
Please keep the links coming! Very helpful.
February 1, 2012 at 6:08 am
We will have Nuclear Fusion.
Clean. Endless energy. Gigantic energy. Almost no nuclear by-products, and It should be available by 2040 (+ another 20 years to be popular and another 20 years to completely overrun the energy industry).
Since as a fuel we use Hydrogen and Helium (various types of fusion) which are THE MOST ABUNDANT RESOURCES IN THE UNIVERSE, this type of energy will be endless, and it even may make the energy FREE in the future.
Wind, Solar and Tidal renewable energy can only provide a tiny fraction of the energy that can be generated by the fusion…and thus…NUCLEAR FUSION IS THE FUTURE.
—> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fusion
However…there are OTHER futuristic types of energy generation. One of which I want to mention to you.
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POWER-SAT (also know as Space Solar Power)
—> www.powersat.com/
—> www.nss.org/settlement/ssp/index.htm
It’s a gigantic solar collector that hovers between Earth and Sun and generates energy. I mention it because it is very easy to show it in the film. One of your characters may simply look up in the DAY-sky, and notice:
“- Hey! What’s that shiny star up in the sky. That has never been there before, was it?
– Oh that? That’s just a satellite…REALLY BIG satellite. It collects solar energy 24h/day and thus, we have lots of electric power.
– Doesn’t it bother you that there’s A STAR that you can see DURING THE DAY?
– What? Didn’t you have a SUN back in your century?
February 2, 2012 at 11:28 am
Thanks for the links! Yes, there are many possibilities for energy. I think there will be a combination of several methods and sources. There is no doubt in my mind though, that cheap energy can be harnessed right from the atmosphere/vacuum flux, like Tesla already did. There are many devices already in development extremely much cheaper than nuclear fusion and space solar power. To me, this film is not only about what is possible, but what is desirable. I would much more desire a world where we are able to harness the kinds of energies Tesla and others harnessed, energies that are readily available all around us, rather than spending extreme amounts of money and resources by ‘crossing the creek for water’. The energy is right here, everywhere.
February 2, 2012 at 3:39 pm
I’am sorry but I totally don’t agree.
You see – you need to understand the difference between science and fiction.
As a futurist I see the future as It can be build considering the time and science limits. If you don’t obey those rules, you are basically, creating a fairy-tail, no different than “Lord of the rings”.
And that will make the movie unrealistic and not taken seriously as a possible future for US, if we chose Resource Based Economy.
Lots of stuff that has been posted on the “world” script is a TOTAL FICTION, and has nothing to do with the real world.
For instance:
- Ant-gravity. You assume that humans will somehow invent it, even thou no-one today has any idea on how to do that. You post links that prove that someone has builded a functioning prototype, so they will surely be used in the future…But you don’t take into consideration that those sites ARE A LIE. If something like that worked, real scientist would know about it. Nobel prise is waiting.
- Vacuum flux energy. If someone suggest that this could be used to power our civilization in about 100 years, it only shows he doesn’t understand how quantum physics work. To put it simple – you cannot harness that power unless you have a solar system-sized engine. Good luck with that…
But why bother? You have a perfectly good (endless, wasteless, existing and efficient) power supply —> Fusion.
- Elimination of religions. Not only this is not true, since the basis of all religions is FAITH (and not the current socio-political order), but also this fact suggest that Resource Based Economy is nothing more than a Modern Communism.
The same thing with “Kid sharing”, “No Pope” and “No marriage”, “New calendar”…communism did that.
I’am not telling you that, because I want to destroy your vision or something.
I’am telling you this because I share the main aspect of your vision (Resource Bases Economy) and I want you to succeed.
February 5, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Hi Marco!
I would like to suggest you do a thorough research on Viktor Schrauberger’s work. Callum Coats wrote fife high quality books on Viktor’s life long work on ecotechnology. I’d suggest to read the Living Energies and the Energy Evolution that explains his inventions including his flying saucer anti gravity machine. It also can be used to produce free energy if fixed to the ground. Hitler forced him to work for him during the II. world war that’s where the german foo-fighters originate from.
I would also suggest you read the book called Hunt For Zero Point by Nick Cook. Please read about Nikola Tesla he also managed to tap into zero point or vacuum energy. He also managed to produce energy by amplifying small currents with his invention the Tesla coil.
As I know you are interested in science and as I understand you maybe spiritual I would love to share with you what I found last year. A man’s work called Walter Russell who explained the universe in such a revolutionary way that it is still not accepted by the main stream scientists today. His periodic table contains more elements than Mendeleev’s and he had predicted the existence of uranium and deuterium before they were discovered. It’s a good start with reading the book called The man who tapped the secrets of the universe by Glenn Clark. I was also advised to do the same.
Most of these advanced science are being kept as a secret before humanity or being ridiculed by the so called elite who are controlling us today otherwise they couldn’t control us and we all would be free, happy and completely fulfilled.
I agree with you what you said about religion. Humanity has always been spiritual and always will be. Even the ones who think today that they are not spiritual may find God within themselves one day.
All the best
Joseph
February 6, 2012 at 10:15 am
Hello Joseph!
Excuse my language, but I must be harsh here.
What you posted here IS NOTHING MORE THEN
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience
It has nothing to do on how the real world works, it cannot be confirmed, it the lacks supporting evidence or plausibility and cannot be reliably tested,
The fact that the author stated his ideas in a science-looking book cover DOES NOT MAKE THEM REAL.
The people who support that kind of stuff, are un-willingly supporting THE DOWNFALL OF CIVILIZATION. They are taking a STEP BACK in our development, since pseudoscience like Nicola’s Tesla Perpetium Mobile or Viktor Schrauberger’s anti-gravity flying saucer that generates endless energy from nothing, ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ASTROLOGY, OCCULTISM or ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE.
The authors of such pseudoscience ideas & books, are a fraud that want to make money out of you, or are a real scientists that have psychological problems.
No-one who believes in that stuff, will ever admit that perpetium mobile, free energy and anti-gravity (or other) are not working, unexplained and unreliable…and thus’ are a Pseudoscience!
They tend to think that EVERYONE ELSE IS FALSE!
That other scientist are stupid, the current known laws of the physics are totally wrong, or the government is keeping it all in secret by some sort of mega-consipracy.
Here is a list of what is considered a pseudoscience:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_topics_characterized_as_pseudoscience
Please…
Instead of reading why World War II UFO’s aren’t flying, read something that tells you why is something WORKING.
Like…Einstains Relativity, Theory of Evolution or Quantum Physics.
No mater how BIZZARE it is…it works.
We use it all the time, and over 1000 experiments all over the world have approved them.
I tell you this because I care about what you think (and not to anger you or something…). Otherwise, I would not have responded.
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About the spirituality of the future:
I tend to see nothing that would connect RBE with the development of religion.
Although I believe that it is good to believe in something that will shape you’r life, as long as humans will have a choice to believe, whether humans spirituality will rise or fall, then it will make no difference to the individuals.
However.
It must be noted that recently a new tendency emerges.
We now start to understand how the Universe itself was created and works. We know about the Big Bang, Inflation, Parallel Universes (described by the M-theory), collapse of symmetry theory, antimatter annihilation and other fascinating things.
If this trends keep up…in 100 years we might discover THE HOLY GRAIL OF COSMOLOGY….THE THEORY OF EVERYTHING.
To put it simply – we will know “WHY?” everything happened.
It’s possible that we will reveal what was the God’s role in the creation of the universe.
In fact – it might answer once-and-for-all the question about the existence of God.
February 6, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Hi Marco!
Thanks for your quick reply its good to have a meaningful excange of ideas with you.
I understand what you mean,
Just one more question.
How would you explain scientifically the migration of trout upstream. I mean what’s their secret of being able to swim upstream so much distance?
Joseph
February 6, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Hi.
Some news about Mars:
www.zeitnews.org/space-science/surface-of-mars-an-unlikely-place-for-life-after-600-million-year-drought-say-scientists.html
So it might change the willingness to establish bases other than scientific there.
Comment on synthetic meat and automatic food assembly – won’t believe it until I try it and can tell no difference (from genuine food). Sorry
February 20, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Dear Marco,
Our conversation seems to have stopped. I’m still waiting for your answer on how the trout manage to migrate upstream such distances in so rapid waters. I found the most reasonable and logical answer in Viktor Schrauberger’s work. I watched a documentary about it on the BBC by David Attenborough some years ago his conclusion was that the trout do it with muscle power and luck, its almost magical how they manage it. That sounds total rubbish after getting a logical explanation from somebody who spent his life observing nature and finding logical answers to lots of natures secrets.
I have got to say I was a bit surprised and shocked about your opinion of Nikola Tesla’s and Viktor Schrauberger’s work. Your interpretation and labelling them pseudo scientists and claiming that their devices don’t work simply false. Anybody suggesting these things about them clearly hasn’t got much information about them and you sound to me projecting other people’s ideas about them without doing a proper research in the topic from all possible angle and coming to a conclusion based on logic.
Schrauberger had patents on his devices and they were working that’s why some American businessman deceived him to give his patent rights for funds in return when he had already been ill before his death.
Tesla had over 700 patents and wasn’t the kind of person who would claim something without successful experiments and evidence. He had to battle with Edison over AC and DC and Tesla won.
Tesla invented the wireless transition of information and power a hundred years ago and we still have the main electric cables hanging everywhere. Tesla was cut off all funds when his sponsor found out that he wanted to give everybody free energy transported wireless. These are all facts that most people haven’t heard of. As long as we have the monetary system there will always be corruption, and corporations serve only their profit motive at whatever cost to humanity and planet earth.
I said I understand what you were saying about this because I may be saying something similar now if I hadn’t done a thorough research about it. A couple of years ago I would have agreed on more things with you. But I kept looking for answers with an open mind and changed my opinion in a lot of topics.
I don’t find Einstain’s Relativity, Theory of Evolution or Quantum Physics bizarre but there are certain gaps, assumptions and there are new theories coming from time to time and some of the old ones are scraped. Einstain and nobody could find a proper theory including gravitation for example.
There was a genius called Walter Russell who had a new concept of the universe in 1926 but most people called him crazy. So many times had happened this before. When the first aeroplane were being built some scientists were writing books at the same time why it is impossible to fly. There are always some sceptics who find it difficult to comprehend revolutionary ideas and if everybody would listen to them we would not have aeroplanes or other new technologies.
I like that you seem to understand and value the concept of the RBE, you have made the first steps to the right direction.
I got most of my knowledge by reading books and watching documentaries. Neil from V-radio gave me a lot of education through his radio shows and by his recommended documentaries on all topics.
You might be interested to check out the one called ‘Who killed the electric car’ or the one called ‘Light bulb conspiracy’ or Burzynski The movie Cancer is serious business.
Very mind opening films. I was very angry and outraged when I found out there is cure for cancer but large corporate pharmaceutical companies are blocking the research of it because it’s success will mean loosing most of their profits on presently used medicines of treating cancer.
All the best
with respect
Joseph
February 20, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I am totally with you Joseph.
This film is about WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE ON THIS PLANET based on what MIGHT be possible. For sure, I want some kind of free energy and anti gravity technology freeing mankind completely.
This film IS wishful thinking. Accepting a future world without money and ownership where there is a ‘global family’ living in relative peace and harmony is wishful in itself. Thus, accepting anti gravity and free energy shouldn’t be much more difficult.
I think it is possible, but the knowledge has been subdued.
February 2, 2012 at 6:33 pm
There is some in it. I’d vote for making it less sci-fi as well. OTOH, there might be things which are not known (thought of) now at all.
Kid-sharing? I wouldn’t do that
And marriage has proven quite useful if made by responsible people.
New calendar? Why complicate things?
Cheers!
February 3, 2012 at 10:35 am
Yes! On The Other Hand, there Might be things which are not as ‘present’ as nuclear fusion might be, but that doesn’t mean they can not become MORE present. OTOH, space solar power isn’t actually very present either.
Speaking about the ‘realism’ in this project. To me, the thought of a global resource based economy is at the moment only a dream and a ‘thought experiment’ and not very present either in the mass consciousness. It is basically a ‘fairy tale’ at the moment.
So, if one believes in the ‘fairy tale’ of an ‘RBE future’, which is the whole foundation for this film, one might as well also believe in a future type of ‘free energy’ and ‘anti gravity’ technology. There’s no difference in realism here.
February 3, 2012 at 4:26 pm
But essentially there is a difference.
Nuclear fusion, Space solar collectors and Colonization of Moon/Mars and beyond are well known to theoretical science, and you only need the “resources” to obtain them.
Thus – resource based economy comes in hand.
For instance – we already have a working prototype fusion-reactor in ITER, and we have Fusion-bombs.
On the other hand…there is nothing in theoretical physics that allows the use of “antigravity” or “free energy”.
Someday, it may happen that humanity will discover the new laws of physics that allows them, and then use that new physics somehow for the benefit of humanity.
However – in the given time-frame (2112) it is not only unlikely, but nearly “impossible”.
I’am telling you that, because of the reasons stated earlier, but you do nut need to despair, they without those “fantasy” inventions the future will look dimmer.
In fact – I want to show you that there are theoretical inventions that are allowed by the know laws of science and are FAR MORE AMAZING!
For instance:
- faster than light communication
- quantum computers, that are more powerful than all the computers ever made combined
- quantum teleportation of small objects
- and others
Later-on, I will post more examples in hopes that it may be somewhat helpful to the movie. I’am just afraid that some “imaginary” technologies used in the film will overwhelm the real things. Hope to help.
- Marco
February 3, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Thanks Marco! I appreciate your comments. Honestly, I don’t care if it is ‘anti gravity’ or ‘free energy’ or some other technology that provides us with an abundance of energy and transportation needs. It might as well be more cool to show a global established ET3 system.
Speaking of transportation. How do you think we WILL transport ourselves in 2112, then? What will replace airplanes? It has to be something that is non-polluting and efficient. But I can’t imagine something with propellers or jet engines. Thus, it has to be something that flies without that, but some other kind of propulsion. What do you suggest?
Here’s a link on anti gravity by the way: www.antigravitytechnology.net/viktor_schauberger.html
Here’s also a film talking about anti gravity: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr_s28wIOzQ&list=PL4E7A58A552A4DFB2&index=19&feature=plpp_video
Here’s a simple magnetic motor: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pFoVNkwegw&list=PL4E7A58A552A4DFB2&index=33&feature=plpp_video
And here’s the space time antenna: basharspacetimeantenna.wordpress.com/about/
February 8, 2012 at 11:28 pm
I realize this is late addition to this conversation, but would like to add a few things.
I learned of RBE through the work of Jacque Fresco and the Venus Project. No sci-fi involved, he outlined opens for free energy already. Technology that is available here and now.
Not sure if you’ve heard of Amory Lovins from the Rocky Mountain Institute, but he talks about efficiencies that could be applied with the technology already available to us that would save over 60% of the resources we currently use.
So my contribution to this discussion is if we can save 60% with what we now know and there is already “FREE” energy solution available now, what’s the problem?
In addition, my contention is that if our insane method of monetizing the world was removed, that scientists, engineers and others could develop technologies and solutions that people of today would not be able to comprehend.
Here’s a quote that I feel is appropriate;
”In the early 20th century, most scientists theoretically agreed that the airplane was probably impossible. However, the Wright Brothers were too busy bolting a gas engine to some wings in their bicycle shop to care about erroneous opinions. Soon after, they defied the authorities and invented the once considered impossible – “flying machine”.
The fact is, when a scientist tells you something is possible, he is likely correct. However, when he states something is impossible, he is likely wrong. Science and technology have continued to defy prior assumptions of possibility, and will continue to do so. It can safely be assumed that whatever the future holds from a technological standpoint, it will likely seem impossible and “ridiculous” from the standpoint of today’s understandings and methods.”
Zeittgeist Introduction Manual
January 17, 2012 at 10:38 pm
I have just browsed the story (opening episode). The plot is weak. The story depends largely upon travelogue to be filled in later because you still have no interesting ideas. The most exciting scene, the demolition, is the most implausible. It really isn’t likely that no one had informed his relatives prior to reanimation, and demolishing an entire city rather seems a poor sense of historical preservation unless they are hiding something, any more than his own personal com system failing to warn him about the demolition, unless there is an assassin in Utopia who hacked it! But all of that would actually be dramatic. Again, Utopia has always been a challenge to drama. But again, nothing in this Utopia actually ever rises to plot point. The story might be more easily set elsewhere.
January 17, 2012 at 11:47 pm
May I first ask you not to spam the site with several identical comments? I removed 2 of them. Now, since you seem to know it all, why don’t you suggest something concrete? Or are you only out to criticize and show how many fine words and formulations you know?
February 3, 2012 at 5:32 am
You bring up some good points, Aaron. You don’t do it in the nicest possible ways but let’s get past your manner problem for a moment and focus on those points.
Plot Points. The story is lacking conflict. That is what propels a story and most screenplays are tossed out for lack of conflict.
The Africa scene is interesting but it has a hole – the malfunctioning CD. It is hard to believe that we have mastered gravitational force but not yet wireless communication. When all people have been evacuated and the demolition of an entire city could be a better option in some instances. www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpyBwPQNyVU
Now, let me stop. I don’t want anyone to think that I am teaming up with this guy to bash our movie. I am dedicated toward making this picture the best example of a viable solution to most of the worlds problems. Not because I am a know it all, but because I am unsatisfied with certain aspects of our collective society and am driven to find better options. This is the best thing I could find to do with my time. This is okay but we can do better.
When people comment on this page with arguments to why this can’t work, I think we should welcome the debate in order to find truth. Even if they have nothing good to say, let them rip our work to sheds and we will pick up the pieces that are still intact and with them make a masterpiece.
I am just getting started at screenwriting and I’m cramming to get caught up enough to be a helpful asset to this project because I believe in it so much. In order to make Waking Up the best example it can be, we need to embrace the opposition and take their criticism as help. We don’t have all the answers and this should be an open discussion to find them. We certainly don’t want to have it picked apart on RottenTomatoes.com, it should be worthy of academic review, backed up by scholars and such. Before filming, Tom Six made sure that his idea for The Human Centipede was 100% medically accurate by hiring a surgeon to test his theory. We should have the same level of commitment to this project.
Back to your post, this is not a Utopia because there will be conflict. As we know not everyone in this world is responsible. There is still room in the world for human error. What that can be is undermined at this point.
This project is still a baby and requires love, attention, respect, and intelligence to grow up into the genius it has the potential to be. Don’t call our baby stupid or ugly.
February 3, 2012 at 11:03 am
Thank you Andrew. I agree that we don’t have to fear criticism, as it is only based on the fear of the critic.
When it comes to the ‘scientific realism’….I saw the trailer on The Human Centipede, and, man, that is a really SICK movie! And whether it is ‘realistic’ or not if a person is actually crazy enough to do something like that, I will not even think about. No matter how ‘medically correct’ it might be, it is certainly not realistic, to me at least.
About the ‘Africa scene’. There are extremely many scenes in films that are completely illogical and unlikely. But still, we accept them. Just look at films and try to use your analytical mind while looking, and you will constantly find illogical and ‘unlikely’ elements.
Take the Star Trek movie, for instance. When the young Kirk lands on the snow planet he finds the old Spock in a big ice cave after having been hunted to that exact cave by a huge monster. Now, how realistic is that….
Ok, he lands on the snow planet. Ok, there is a monster (Huh? Monster? On the south pole you can walk for weeks without seeing any living thing, and when/if you do, it certainly not a huge monster). And then this monster chases Kirk in the EXACT DIRECTION of the cave where Spok HAPPENS TO BE.
But, do we care? Not really. But why?
Because when watching films, one watches with ones feelings, rather than with ones logical reasoning. We are looking at the ACTION, we are not analyzing.
So, if there’s something slightly wrong with some logic in the Waking Up movie, I don’t think we have to worry.
Back to the ‘demolition scene’ in Africa. I can think of several likely reasons why Ben goes into that city. One is that HE IS STUBBORN and not used to the lenses.
There can be a scene where he removes all his CD outfit, to ‘take a brake from it’. He is not used to get augmented images in front of him all the time, and a voice talking to him unexpectedly in his ears. Thus HE DOESN’T GET THE INFO ABOUT THE CITY.
He can get the address on a piece of paper from someone. Then he can go to Africa on the ET3 transport system. And then on a self driven car of some sorts. The car can refuse to go into the city and say something about demolition. Still, Ben has come as far and he is not going to give up. HE IS STUBBORN. He goes out of the car and into the city by foot with the note with the address in his hand, looking for the street…
Or, better yet, there’s a shortage of self driven cars where he is, and/or the city is in a remote area, so he have to find some other means of transportation, and he finds and old beat up Jeep that runs on gas. Maybe his daughter managed to hide this city from the digital world map, so that she could stay there in peace, hiding from the powers that be that wanted to kill her. Thus, no info about this city is recorded on the Internet. It’s a small city, and not easy to find. He has to do research to find this city at all and finds it on an old map and drives there through hours on dusty roads, only to find it deserted. This sequence can stand as a nice contrast to the other hight tech scenes as well. What do you think?
In any case, we’ll get there. We’ll find the right thing for him to do. We’ll get the story in place.
February 5, 2012 at 6:02 am
Not too get off subject but if you thought Human Centipede was rough, don’t watch the sequel. I brought up the movie just to make a point about accuracy, not to praise the story. The fact is that some people are really sadistic in this world. The Human Centipede reference brings up an issue that our future society may or may not solve: certain people’s desire to cause harm to another. We may need to seek assistance from people in the psychological and medical fields for their projections and theories.
As for the illogical scenes in film, we have a difference in opinion. When something in a movie doesn’t make sense and the rest of the movie doesn’t bother to explain it, and fast, it takes me out of the film and breaks the spell the fiction had on me. The purpose of Waking Up is to show the audience a better way of life and get them to think that they could actually achieve it, or better, if they try. If we have moments in the story when the spell is broken, our message will be very difficult to express. Trekkies forgave the illogical scenes out of worship, film buffs don’t forgive or forget. I truly believe that if we want this film to be a success, accuracy is key.
On that note, I could be wrong about this but I don’t think that we will have MASTERED anti-gravity vehicles in 100 years. It just seems way too dangerous of a transportation to method to perfect in that amount of time. Think about all the preparation it would take before everyone became a pilot. Think about falling cars. I think we need to bridge the gap and showcase the bridge more than the other side. What most sci fi movies fail to do is get the audience to want to live in that world. Avatar achieved this. People were suffering from depression because they wanted so badly to live on Pandora. We will inspire more than depress because unlike Pandora, we can actually create our world just like the way we project it to be.
Free Energy is totally possible and is the only way an RBE can work, IMO.
The highly developed ET3 system is a better idea for the film than flying cars, also more unique. What about air travel can we evolve that? Security, borders, baggage, etc.
“taking a break for a bit” – excellent idea. Going “natural” is a great way to get Ben into the city without warnings.
I actually like the first idea better, the old jeep…why is it still around? why is there gas in it? why do we still have gas? Going in to the city on foot (or some kind of futuristic mountain bike – …it came with the car) seems more logical to me.
I like the idea of that sequence being in contrast to the rest of the world’s technology but I think I missed a part. Who wants to kill Biancha? Who are the powers that be? How does a doctor manipulate satellite images and hide her location from maps? How do we explain that?
Love your optimism, Harold. Great work everyone! It’s coming along…
February 6, 2012 at 10:09 am
I didn’t see the whole Human Centipede film, just the trailer, and that was more than enough. Maybe I’m a bit sensitive…
My point was that the whole concept for that film is unrealistic, at least to me, from the beginning, thus it is irrelevant whether it is ‘medically accurate’ or not. But we don’t have to go any further on this tangent.
But we DO agree about accuracy and logic. Yes, I absolutely WANT the most continuous logic and accuracy in the film as possible. My point was just that EVERYTHING DOESN’T HAVE TO BE EXPLAINED. And it for sure isn’t in most films.
Like, ‘why is there a gasoline car around?’. It not being explained doesn’t have to have any negative effect on the film. People won’t sit around thinking, ‘Nnnaaaahh! This film is shit! A gasoline car!? In that future!?! That’s completely unrealistic! I’m leaving!’.
It all depends on the context of how he finds that car and uses it. Everything depends on the context, and everything can not be explained. We won’t have time for that. For that matter, it might as well be an ‘old electric car’ he finds and drives on with.
As an example of another TV series I just saw here in Sweden that is ‘illogical’. It’s a series called ‘real humans’ (but in Swedish), where human looking robots (called ‘hubots’) live alongside and interact with humans in a world where obviously nothing else has developed technologically. It’s like the world of today, but with these Hubots in addition. These hubots walk, talk, act and look like humans, but with a little more ‘rubbery’ and smooth look on the skin. But, how likely is it that technology has had a ‘stand still’ on all other areas, but highly advanced robots has been developed? Not very likely. Still, it is intriguing to watch the interaction and story as it goes along. But, as said, I want to avoid this in the Waking Up movie. I’m just saying this to show that you can go very far and do a lot of ‘illogical’ things in even a ‘realistic’ film, and the audience won’t mind.
I’m glad you believe in some kind of ‘free energy’ in this future. I think it is totally possible too. I think some kind of ‘anti gravity’ also will be possible. Still, for the sake of this film, it might be more interesting to show some kind of mag lev, like the ET3 and other transportation.
Hey! What if anti grav is BEING DEVELOPED in this film, and Ben gets a look into that? He and Aweena could try one of the first AG (anti gravity) vehicles….and maybe something dramatic could happen to them while doing this, as the technology wasn’t quite ready yet…. Just an idea…
And what about air travel…? Are there any non-polluting airplanes, or…? If there isn’t AG, I suppose there are still a lot of flying transport.
“Security, borders, baggage”? Well, there aren’t any borders in this world, and no need for security. And baggage…? No need for a lot of baggage either, as most can be acquired at the place you arrive. You can ‘print out’ your clothes on any ‘hotel’.
The powers that be? CIA… This is the background story on what happened to Biancha and part of the reason why she changed her name and moved to a secret address. I meant that it can be a remote town/village in Africa that can be seen from satellite, but is not that mapped yet. If you, for example search for Soyo, Angola, and zoom in on that town, you will see that very few of the streets are mapped. Not that we will use that exact town, but just as an example, it IS possible to find ‘unmapped’ towns, and some that will probably be unmapped in a 100 years as well….
Thanks, man. Well, optimism is what this project and film is about!