Waking Up is an open source movie about a positive future for humanity, for a change. The manuscript is available online and the public can contribute to and comment on it. Welcome! More info.
Waking Up movie is put on ice at the moment. Read more here.
The scene above acts as a short film to show the concept of the movie. It may or may not be in the final movie. Cast in the scene: Ben: Katene Nicholas. Aweena: Sara Lahne. Script, director, editor: Harald Sandø. If you have trouble watching the clip here, or would like to contribute with a translation, you can go to the YouTube version. The scene won the Official Selection in the Cinema Out Of Your Backpack festival.
What Can You do?
Waking Up is about a positive future set about 100 years from now. What will the world look like then IF Humanity chooses a positive route starting from today? What will a film look like when we apply optimistic realism to the script? Can we make it exiting? Endearing? Compelling? If you like this concept and want to help out, there are several things you can do:
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- Spread the word. Use the sharing tools on this page to share it with your friends.
- Contribute. If you think you have some thoughts about how this film can be, go to the guideline page for more info and then on to the google document collection.
- Donate. To donate, click the button to the right. We haven’t set up a budget for this film yet, but want to make a film that really shows this possible future, and we want it to look real, believable and high quality, which will require a significant budget.
The Film
Waking Up is about a former businessman, who chose cryogenic preservation of himself in 2012, in the hope that humanity once might be able to thaw him up and cure his disease some time in the future. And this is exactly what happens.
One hundred yeas later the world has gone through massive changes towards the positive. Both technology and human values has developed into a whole new world, positive in all aspects for humanity. One of the aspects is that money and property is gone, and people do things for other reasons than trading and hoarding wealth. Waking Up is about Ben’s experiences in this world and the difficulties he faces in waking up to this new reality.
In the scene above, Ben is walking in the woods with his newly acquainted guide, Aweena. He has only been awake for a few days, after several weeks of curing and restituting his body while he was asleep. He is a bit confused, and can’t really understand what has happened. He feels somewhat attracted to this new world and to Aweena, but at the same time he has trouble believing it is real.
Non-Profit
The film is a non-profit venture where any profit of this film will go towards a fund aimed at creating the world the film describes. In effect, this can mean to make more films, buy land, build villages and cities, and inform the greater public about these new possibilities for humanity.
April 7, 2013 at 8:41 pm
Documentaries are good, but mpvie maybe is even better to show to people the right way
February 11, 2013 at 1:40 am
Filme com uma idéia do caralho! todo meu respeito para esta realidade
November 7, 2012 at 1:21 pm
great. I can’t wait to see that movie.
September 14, 2012 at 1:42 am
Not a bad starting point for the movie. Good concept. One minor gripe though. What is with the guy throwing his jacket away when he runs off. The ultimate homage to today’s current throwaway society.
September 11, 2012 at 8:21 pm
Just a bump. Don’t forget your mission!
August 26, 2012 at 10:22 am
I have a few gripes, I’ll try and get them out of the way quickly. But don’t misunderstand me, I enjoyed this and wish you the best of luck.
1 – the ignorance of the female character towards the male characters past is downright foolish. In a highly advanced technological society the study of history would be paramount for all people, for her to be ignorant towards a CELL PHONE (one of mankind’s most barrier breaking devices) is just silly and makes her look like an ignoramus.
2 – skipping….the skipping at the end by the female character is again foolish. I get it, life’s good, that doesn’t mean everyone skips. It makes the character look childish and ditsy(stupid basically) and the businessman would have probably laughed at her in reality. Instead make her run fast, real fast. Why? In a highly technological society the chance of people being out of shape is practically null. Again why? Look at how fast she can access information this leads us to the conclusion that wait times are just gone, we don’t have to sit and wait for anything to load but for maybe two seconds. And again in a technologically advanced society the abundance of truly healthy foods and medicine would make all of mankind truly healthy/fit.
3 – her receiving the call. And again this makes the female character and the technology look stupid and unnecessary. If she KNEW she was taking this guy out to the woods to assist in his wake-up then why would she not turn off her call receiver?
4 – the person in the call. Doesn’t know the slang term for wake-ups? Hmm.
I understand why you did some of this stuff though. It was to provide context and to physically show the technology and make us(the audience) react as the male character does. It’s probably a good thing this project was put on the back burner. Please try and not just put yourself in the shoes of the characters but of the whole society/world/lifestyle of the future.
September 11, 2012 at 8:29 pm
I think it’s sort of brilliant.
She is not a professional. She’s a volunteer.
The refer to a computer as a Max or Pentium. How many kids these days know what a 8286 is? Names change. Especially toward the beginning. Windows 3.1 ran on a 8286.
Broken English makes an intelligent man look like an idiot. Just imagine taking to someone from 1912.
Technology can be a bitch. Not saying we will or won’t have cell phone contacts but who could have predicted that 90% of work can be performed from a desk 100 years ago?
Your last point is answered by your last paragraph and I agree – it could be worded better. But he DOES have a section for you to write a better line.
September 15, 2012 at 11:22 pm
So she’s a volunteer. That doesn’t mean she has to be presented in such a ridiculous manner.
“Technology can be a bitch. Not saying we will or won’t have cell phone contacts but who could have predicted that 90% of work can be performed from a desk 100 years ago?”
Most great minds figured this “who could have predicted that 90% of work can be performed from a desk,” would happen. And if you’ve ever seen a graph cataloging the change and advances in technology you’d see exponential growth.
I don’t have the desire to write a new line for either of these characters. I’d only end up wishing I could change or take out the characters completely and rewrite the whole plot idea.
September 16, 2012 at 9:35 am
Please do rewrite the whole plot idea, no one is stopping you.
September 17, 2012 at 8:14 pm
Wasn’t trying to offend. Was only trying to tell the truth on how I feel.
If you had read my previous comment you’d have seen this – ” But don’t misunderstand me, I enjoyed this and wish you the best of luck. ”
Still do wish you the best of luck.
September 17, 2012 at 8:44 pm
Non offence taken.
And I meant what I said. But I should probably have given you this link as well: www.rbestories.com. A more open place to write ‘all kinds’ of RBE stories. 
March 12, 2013 at 6:35 am
I agree with all of these points actually. Was thinking the same things.
Also the woman has an odd accent and I wouldn’t have casted her in that role where she is using new terms. New terms are foreign and hard to hear and then adding an accent on top makes it too much work to try and hear what she is saying.
Looking forward to seeing more though.
July 18, 2012 at 11:35 pm
In my opinion, this movie should not be the similar to the typical Hollywood movies, and its purpose should not be the profits, but profits may be used for further promotion of moneyless economy of the future.
The movie should show a civilization in which people have achieved peace, morality, altruism and tolerance, high level of education and culture. As it became possible after the person has been gradually freed from the need to work hard for the money.
This film should be like a tour of our contemporaries in the future of humankind through the eyes of the protagonist. The film must show the possibility of moneyless system.
August 22, 2012 at 9:54 am
That’s the movie in a nutshell, George. If you’ve read anything on this website, you would have discovered that.
May 11, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Oooh! I read the comment about AG – I think it’s just an electrical issue. Once someone discovers it, it will be no time at all before we have it mastered.
Yes, we will still have roads to handle ‘falling cars’ but I don’t think it will be quite the issue you think it will be.
But hey, I could be wrong. We are talking the future though – right?
May 11, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I love the idea but putting it into practice is becomes something horrible.
You need to account for all the evil individuals as well. Because I can tell you they will look for the man at the top of resources and suddenly resources will become scarce unless X happens.
Evil will happen. But I love the idea.
May 12, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Hi John
Just want to say I don’t understand what you’re saying here. Don’t know if it’s just me.
May 13, 2012 at 7:45 pm
its normal to you not understand i make gravitation engine this devise will change the wolrd still not ready
May 13, 2012 at 7:50 pm
well if you write a book i will give 1 idea .Thinking what will be if we dont transport more the electrisity end how big will be this devise why will work without network? Sori for my englich is not native
May 13, 2012 at 9:02 pm
Petrov, there are many who claim to have ‘free energy’ devices. You now claim you have one of those that can also produce ‘anti gravity’? In that case, don’t keep it do yourself, but share it and all the drawings and plans you’ve got. Don’t try to patent it, as all those patents will be registered and bought up by powers that be. If you won’t sell, you will be threatened by them. Rather go for an open source solution for this, letting all the world’s people in on it’s development, and rather try to get investors to start mass production of the ‘device’ to earn your money. Don’t keep it to yourself. When it is ‘out there’, there will be thousands who have your drawings and plans, and it will be impossible to stop. Make a website right away to share it. I can help you with that. Just my 5 cents on this.
May 14, 2012 at 10:07 am
yes you understand well what I do . The papers for patient is nesesery becouse i want to make this not comersial how i will do that The furst plan is to publich all in internet with open sourse but… i think the people are not ready for that
after the energie will be not expencive
The bissnes will take this gift end will try to change the rools so will take the controll from me or for anyone …anyway I not need control of something or to be rich becouse i have my personal indipendant bissnes …So if I give the rights to use this devise i will control them
Next step is to make money end to close the door for the bissnes How ?
The bissnes (the monopols ) will investigate money to conect my devise in nacional electrisity netwokrs Well good … this investigators will kill all bissnes with petrol , gas fuil for 10 years .
what i will do after ?
I will do portable version for cars homes appartments all things why work with electrisity
for 10 years the bissnes will kill yourself with litlle help
second opcion is the open sourse i will publich evrithingin in internet if my plan with the rights didnt work
REMEMBER ONE THINGS
I have just one chance to change the world with peace end the backup are all of you
so when furst 1000 devises end the electric car are ready i will search for help
This is the furst part of my story the second is the human rights all world the same justise in all world the same money so If I will grow up like mister Big try to stop me
May 14, 2012 at 10:14 am
its exelent devise what you like to do ?
to give this like gift to the peorple
Or to Kill the bissnes
With this devise you not need to transport electricity so may you preffere to pay for that?
THIS IS THE DIFFRENTS FROM ANOTHER DEVISES ALL ARE MAKED FOR SELLING
THIS ONE HAVE DIFFRENT DESTINATION
May 17, 2012 at 10:20 pm
Harald, I am not an electrical engineer but I have a thought on AG. It really isn’t Antigravity at all but it would enable cars to fly.
My question is, when I prove or disprove whether it works or not what do I do about it?
My first thought is get a patent and then release it on youtube.
Legally no corporation can doing anything from that point and it becomes free information for general education.
What do you think?
June 15, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Petrov,
Electricity isn’t a problem. Nikola Tesla invented wireless power with the Tesla Coil. A relatively easy and light device.
John
June 15, 2012 at 9:26 pm
Yes he make it but wuthout big sucsses … Why ?
years ago we understand what he make
but didn’t understand why
May 17, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Before I can clarify, I need you to clarify what I need to fix. Or is it the entire post?
May 16, 2012 at 11:27 am
John. What is traditionally known as “evil” is a reflection of the aberrant environment and economic systems we live under today. People are not born “evil”. There isn’t “human nature” but more like human behavior instead. All the evil things you see are caused by environmental factors such as illogical values and harmful upbringings such as competition and all these dogmatic influences you see kids growing up with. That causes a lot of these problems. Also a lack of education and not to mention the terrible education systems we have today.
May 17, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Born evil. Well that’s a difference of opinion. I am certain that twins, while apparently identical, are in fact different. They learn at different speeds, have their own opinions and like the fingerprint – are unique regardless of their genes.
Don’t get me wrong, ever person on this planet believes they are doing right. But some believe whole heartedly that for our own good we must be enslaved.
September 14, 2012 at 1:47 am
Not all believe they are doing right. Some know they are doing wrong and just don’t care and will do whatever seems necessary to achieve what they want today.
May 17, 2012 at 10:55 pm
I love the comments Harold and John #2 leave! I think this post is more about “People who think they can make the world a better place – comment here”.
Personally I just think money is the grease between the wheels of exchange. But professional capitalists don’t have to work to earn ridiculous sums of money and that’s just wrong.
I don’t know how to handle it, but I’m in favor of progressing toward a common goal.
June 27, 2012 at 1:39 am
@ John Wilkinson: Evil will not happen. Evil will happen in today’s society because that’s what they pick up within the society. In the new society or future society there will be no need for evil because no one is going to know how to do it. Let me explain. One of the main reasons people steal is because of money, power and even ownership. People are not born knowing how to steal or kill. People pick that up from what’s around them.
It’s going to be a really difficult process/transition and I’m really curious to see how that’s going to happen.
April 27, 2012 at 3:01 pm
Well this movie is a great idea . Help ? My help will be the weapon why will change this world still not ready but after mounts maybe … so i will need pub one day end in the movie is veri good for that
May 21, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Antonio Longoria produced a Death Ray in the late 30′s. He sold the patents but had a picture taken, convinced no one would unravel it’s secrets.
What it looks like is a giant Magnetron – a microwave. He said in an interview it operates on “an unexplored band of X-Ray”.
It’s an awesome notion and reports are grand indeed but even now our military found it’s balance between budget and manpower with simple guns.
April 8, 2012 at 9:06 pm
“EXPENSIVE ? WHAT DOES THAT WORD MEAN AGAIN?”
Just a thought…
I think that when ppl use the word expensive, it will b related to energy. She should’ve said: “expensive, no… we use a combination of geothermal, tidal, wind,…, and photovoltaic generation. Its not expensive @all!”
May 18, 2012 at 6:49 am
or something else
April 5, 2012 at 1:16 am
Why didn’t people walk out on the latest Star Trek movie when the monster chased Kirk into the cave with Spock? Because they saw the trailer and decided they wouldn’t throw money at an obviously ludicrous movie. You can’t walk out if you never walk in. The same goes for The Human Centipede. It looked so horribly bad that the only people I know of who watched it, sat and played ‘MST3K’ while watching it. That’s why they rented it; to riff the entire cinematic abomination.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystery_Science_Theater_3000#Premise
June 8, 2012 at 4:51 pm
You missed the point of why I brought up “Human Centipede”. The movie prided itself on being 100% medically accurate. We should make “Waking Up” 100% scientifically accurate, so the viewer don’t think/say “that’s a nice idea, but it’ll never happen because…” We should eliminate the potential criticism and be our own harshest critics first. 100% Accuracy/Plausibility: That’s all I was saying we should strive for with this film. If the horror movie reference is too distracting for you, forget I mentioned it.
June 8, 2012 at 4:52 pm
You missed the point of why I brought up “Human Centipede”. The movie prided itself on being 100% medically accurate. We should make “Waking Up” 100% scientifically accurate, so the viewers don’t think/say “that’s a nice idea, but it’ll never happen because…” We should eliminate the potential criticism and be our own harshest critics first. 100% Accuracy/Plausibility: That’s all I was saying we should strive for with this film. If the horror movie reference is too distracting for you, forget I mentioned it.
April 5, 2012 at 1:02 am
Just a quick thought on the matter… The reason people didn’t walk out of completely implausible movies like The Human Centipede or the latest Star Trek movie is because they never went to the movie in the first place. Trekkies were highly pissed that the latest Star Trek movie was so anti-canon and anti-plausible. People avoided The Human Centipede because is looked like just another crappy low-budget film. There are people who like B-flicks the like (Star Trek may have had the budget, but it sure didn’t have the writers), but they are only watching movies for pure entertainment value. Typically, they are not looking to think about the possibilities the films bring up concerning our future.
April 4, 2012 at 9:40 pm
here’s an upcoming technological advance from google i discovered just now that’s really cool!!
it’s not exactly “aweena’s” contact lenses, but pretty close!!
scroll down to the bottom of the page and watch the google video:
www.amny.com/urbanite-1.812039/video-google-reveals-its-insane-augmented-reality-glasses-1.3643015
and here’s just the video if you don’t want to read the article:
June 8, 2012 at 4:56 pm
WOW! That is sick. It’s like Mind-Fi!
March 25, 2012 at 11:14 pm
True science is not what we have in place today. What we have is definitely pseudo science based on a profit model. Science must go back to open inquiry in which all possibilities are scrutinized and no result is summarily dismissed. This will improve our present way of thinking altogether. Open inquiry coupled with the intention to discover and on top of that the intention to benefit and develop all of society in order to cause everyone to cooperate and thrive is something well worth encouraging. The only thing standing in the way of our progress is the false notion that we were made to exist in individual thought realms cut off from each other. It’s patently obvious that we were meant to exist in a system, together because this is the natural model for the continuance of life. All of life is based on the actions of coupling and purposeful interaction, even on the subatomic level we see this. When we change our focus, which we are currently being pressured into by the failure of our self interested economic models, we will progress beyond the limits of our current pseudo science.
March 25, 2012 at 11:22 pm
Yessir! I concur.
March 26, 2012 at 11:10 am
Yes Cher!! Very well put.
Thanks.
April 8, 2012 at 8:59 pm
well put. we’ve organized our lifeground on the rudiments of positional advantage instead of cooperation. it turns out that survival was in such a state of instantaneous demand that we lacked the capacity to develop a self-sustaining socio economic system designed to maintain inclusive collaboration for the direct benefit of all, equally. obviously, we have figured out the best approaches to achieve this, we just lack the cultural responsibility to do so.
May 17, 2012 at 10:43 pm
*like*
March 24, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Google Document Title:
An Idea That Will Hinder Achieving A Resource Based Society
docs.google.com/document/d/1khhFDIxBNnO2AG_EVVv5UOc64-sIZEVn0gOjE3ecvU4/edit
March 24, 2012 at 12:38 pm
Cane,
Anyone can be a critic. It’s easy to say an idea won’t work. Long lists of reasons can be made for either view.
It was told to all forward thinking visionaries throughout time. It was told to Henry Ford, the Wright Brothers, Walt Disney and thousands more.
This film is to show that it is possible. That we believe in the true nature of man. Even with all those who desire to hurt others, there are hundreds of thousands if not millions who’ sonly desire is to live in peace.
You are certainly welcome to believe what you do. What is your solution to the World’s problems?
We believe in the future of the world, humanity and peace. We believe this movie might help explain our point of view. With the possibility of giving some people a solution to believe in.
There are already thousands of movies which represent the negative point of view. How do they make you feel?
We choose to create a film that is uplifting and inspiring.
Good luck,
John
March 24, 2012 at 2:33 pm
I sincerely hope we succeed in changing the world for the better. You did not mention any direct opinion whether it is true that the idea I presented does permeate society or not. I posted it here because I think it is a serious threat to the success of making a better world.
You mention Henry Ford, et. al. They are single people. To change the world the way we want to, we need a majority of people. That is usually done with fear of a common enemy.
Tell me how you propose to convince the majority of society to agree, believe, and or trust in your vision of the world.
I love your optimism, but I don’t think you are following your own advice and see the world as it really is.
I look forward to seeing this movie. It is a work of fiction and, I think, one of the goals of this movie is to educate and inspire that society, I think it will fail because of my perceptive idea.
I accept your wish of good luck and offer you the same wish.
I hope you take a closer look at my perspective as it will affect your success.
March 24, 2012 at 3:56 pm
Yes, your perspective will affect our success in a negative way, so why should we listen to you? Listening to you is like saying ‘I am going to climb Mount Everest, but I don’t think I’ll make it’. Now, do you think anyone who made it to the top of Mount Everest ever had that mind set? I don’t think so. To get anywhere in life, you have to have a steady focused vision of where you want to go, or else you won’t get anywhere. That goes for our vision of this film also. It is very irrational and counterproductive to say you want to go somewhere, but at the same time say you don’t think you’ll ever get there.
That said, your view of ‘human nature’ is a fallacy. If anything, ‘human nature’ is adaptable to it’s environment. In a scarcity environment, human nature can become competitive, while in an abundance environment, human nature can become collaborative. Human nature is not ‘this’ or ‘that’, human nature is versatile, adaptive, malleable and changeable.
March 24, 2012 at 4:14 pm
I sincerely apologize for my failure to convey the purpose of my posts. I am only pointing out a reality that will adversely affect your goals. In my honest opinion, it is a serious threat. If you do not agree, then by all means ignore me.
I agree that humans have become the dominant species on the Earth because of many reasons, one of which is being that we are adaptive to new environments. You could argue that the environment changed first, then the human animal changed. So, how do we get the world to change so that we can change?
For us to change the world, we need to solve real issues and my perspective, in m honest opinion, is definitely a real issue.
If I am correct, and people like you ignore me, then I fear people like you will not succeed as easily as they think, if at all.
March 24, 2012 at 5:24 pm
If you can convey HOW we can solve the issue you are advocating, I will happily listen to you. Just pointing out there is an issue won’t do much good unless you have a suggestion to a solution. What I hear you saying is ‘give up, there’s no point in making any film or try going for any kind of better world, ‘man’ is corrupt and that’s all there is to it’.
Your ‘issue’ that human nature is a static nature of greed and corruption, I simply don’t agree with.
You ask: How do we change the world so that we can change? We are already changing. There are continual developments and ebbs and flows of opinions and mindsets in the world. The world is constantly evolving as a result of different ideas emerging in humans. Ideas that might not even be that new.
‘Ideas’ like compassion, collaboration and a gift economy are age old, but have been buried for millennia by our prevalent monetary system and mindset, which I argue is a mindset ‘implanted’ in humanity by forces wanting to control Mankind.
Now, it seems, the age old notions of sharing, giving, compassion and collaboration are waking up once again.
I am of course not 100% certain we will ‘get there’, but if we don’t try we can be 100% certain we WON’T get there. Yes, if you look in one direction, the outlook is poor, but if you look in another direction it looks pretty good, and growing.
If I am about to climb Mount Everest and you point out that ‘it is very hard’ or ‘many people die trying’, it won’t help me much, now will it? Saying to me ‘your mental condition is not good, you will never make it’, won’t help either.
Are you one of those who like to watch a mountain expedition and hoping they’ll fail, maybe…? If so, you’ll fail with us, because this ‘mountain expedition’ is Humanity.
March 25, 2012 at 2:30 am
Cane,
Truly I understand and empathize with you. It’s easy to feel that way because of what you see in the world around you, that there may not be any hope for the future.
It becomes more interesting (and scary) when you look deeper into some of these “bizarre” happenings and see how they connect. There seems to be a purpose to the madness. Which in my view is to keep the majority of people stuck in fear. They are doing a pretty good job of it.
But, things are changing. Even the most jaded person is starting to ask questions about the craziness in the world. Wondering what ‘s really happening.
Something you may not understand or be aware of is something called the “tipping point”. When a certain number of people begin to integrate a new paradigm or idea, it moves into the public consciousness. (the book Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell goes into depth about this phenomenon).
It’s similar to the concept of the Hundredth Monkey.
You state that you only believe in “reality”. Well what constitutes the state of reality and how are you sure that you are living fully in the true eality?
Science is absolutely amazing, but it has not answered all the mysteries of life. There are so many aspects of life that we truly don’t understand. Many of these are brushed under the rug by some who claim to be “realists”.
How can you explain some of the experiments with freezing water, who’s physical makeup was changed just by the intention of the person watching it? For more information see the documentary What the Bleep do we Know.
How about the documentary from Tom Shadyac (director of Bruce Almighty, Liar, Liar and more) called I AM. Some of the people he interviews have some interesting thoughts to consider.
Have you looked into Noetic Science?
There are so many areas of life that we know little or nothing about. But I see more and more people looking for answers. Sometimes they look without posing very good questions, but they are asking.
You feel that the only way to make changes with the majority of the people in the world that we must “fear” a common enemy. Why? Wouldn’t it make more sense to create a loving bond between all people of the world? Or another positive idea?
In my life experience, that I see in the world what I expect to see. Said in another way, humans have a tendency to “look past” things they don’t believe in or agree with. So we get, what we anticipate getting.
Another way to look at it is where are you focusing the lens of your life? To the dirt on the ground? What do you see there? A brown world. But what if you focus on the deep blue sky above? You see and get a much different feeling.
Look at the world today. There are many people protesting. They’re attempting to do so in a non-violent way. These people are the pioneer’s of the new world. There are many people that desire change. The trouble is that so many say it can’t be done.
The reason I mentioned those other individuals is that at the time the majority of people said that what they contemplated doing was impossible. History has proven the majority wrong many times. I believe that we are in this position in life again, but at a much larger scale.
Family and close friends will leave you a wide berth (thinking you’re crazy or worse) if you talk about these issues. Why does that happen? Because they’re comfortable living in the paradigm they believe in. It’s so difficult to break away from deeply held beliefs. And most people (most of all the person you see in the mirror) doesn’t want anyone “talking” them into believing something different from what they feel comfortable and safe in their way of thinking.
I realize, no matter what I write, you’ll not change your point of view. That is, until you decide it makes sense for you to change.
No one can “force” another to change (or wake up) All we can do is to live the life we desire or covet as an example for others. To truly live our beliefs in a loving and compassionate manner. When you are able to do that (which is much more difficult then it sounds) then others will ask or wonder why you seem to live so gracefully in the world.
At that point, they just might, show an interest in what you have to say.
There are few appealing humane solutions to resolve the deepest issues of human kind. So, if one were presented in a way that made sense to them and didn’t “challenge” some of their deeply held beliefs, you just might hit a tipping point. That position where people on the earth would work together in harmony.
So in my opinion, there is no way we can fail. When you inspire others to live up to their ideal of themselves, you create a guidepost.
The idea is to inspire others to work towards the same major goals. Peace, happiness and love, things that all major religions stand for at their core.
So what do you choose? That live will end as we know it with the earth descending into chaos? Or do you see the good in all people and the possibilities of peace on earth?
Maybe, just maybe, this film will inspire that one final person who pushes this idea over the tipping point.
Best Regards,
John
March 25, 2012 at 9:46 am
Thanks John for your post. I was reading it and came to this line: “Science is absolutely amazing, but it has not answered all the mysteries of life.”
That line made me read a bit more carefully from there.
The next lines really got my attention: “There are so many aspects of life that we truly don’t understand. Many of these are brushed under the rug by some who claim to be “realists”.
How can you explain some of the experiments with freezing water, who’s physical makeup was changed just by the intention of the person watching it? For more information see the documentary What the Bleep do we Know.”
So, before I make a decision to read further, I decided to look for the documentary on youtube and found it. So, I will watch it and get back to you.
March 25, 2012 at 9:52 am
While I watch your video you suggested, John. Will you return the favor and watch this video?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=752V173e31o
Thanks!!!!
March 25, 2012 at 6:24 pm
I have actually watched the (WHOLE) ‘documentary’ you suggested Cane, and agree with most of what this guy says, but not all though. A dose of healthy skepticism is….healthy. Still, skepticism alone won’t bring science ahead. For that you need openness, curiosity and creativity. Do you think we would have had ANY of the inventions we have today if those who invented them were nothing but sceptic? I think I can picture it…. Edison sitting with his lightbulb after one try: ‘Nah, this will never work’. Or actually, if he were only sceptic, he wouldn’t have bothered even trying, since it has not been ‘proven by science’.
The film of this guy is obviously not directed towards scientists, but towards uneducated people, helping them not waste their money on ineffective alternative medicine. Now, he goes a bit far when he disproves basically all alternative medicine and leaves only FDA approved drugs as valid. Makes me wonder if he is sponsored by them….
In any case, you have to have a balance between openness and skepticism, or else science and the world will get nowhere. Without openness and curiosity we would still be living in caves. ‘Fire??!! No!! It’s not proven by science!!’. ‘The wheel??!? No, no, no!!! It won’t work!!!’.
March 25, 2012 at 10:07 am
I have already watched 13 minutes of the documentary you suggested, John. They are talking about sight and how that what the brain perceives through the eyes and what the brain remembers are distinctly different, yet the brain cannot tell the difference.
I have a couple of questions.
1) What happens int he brains of blind people?
2) If you understand the difference between the two descriptions, what is stopping you from detecting which is memory and which is the perception of real-time? Try it.
3) Quantum Physics is usually misunderstood to mean that what is know about the very very very very small is applicable to what we call normal size. It usually isn’t applicable to what we call normal size.
That was enough to cause me to decide not to watch the rest of the “documentary”.
I sincerely hope you watch the video I suggested and tell me what you think of it.
Have a wonderful day.
March 25, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Wow, you only watched 13 minutes and decided not to watch the rest. I understand.
Not sure why you decided to write anything on this site. Why did you feel the need to do so? Did you feel that this was something that you felt was wrong and you needed to show us your point of view?
I’m being sincere here. I’m really confused.
As I wrote before, if you’re mind is made up and your point of view is narrow, there is no room for conversation.
I wish you the very best on your quest.
John
March 25, 2012 at 4:28 pm
I don’t know how you, John, could have missed my post about a video that I suggested. But it seems you did. If you watch that video, you may understand that my keeping an open mind is only for reality, not BS.
If you decide not to watch the video I suggested, it is your loss. I truly appreciate your sincerity. I hope you can appreciate my good will.
Good day!
March 25, 2012 at 6:49 pm
This is profound, John. Thank you.
March 25, 2012 at 9:34 am
By all means TRY. But if you want to increase your chances of success, do what the expedition planners do, plan for every contingency. I know that example is extreme, but that is the path I am taking in these posts. You obviously don’t agree that my perspective is anywhere near reality. So, I will do us both a favor and I will stop posting on this topic.
Good Luck.
March 25, 2012 at 4:22 pm
“If you can convey HOW we can solve the issue you are advocating, I will happily listen to you.”
I am not a creative sort, so this may not be a good solution, but it is the best I can come up with: Spread the awareness that this idea permeates society and with the awareness can come change.
March 25, 2012 at 6:38 pm
You say ‘Spread the awareness that this idea permeates society’. With ‘this idea’, you mean that ‘man’ is basically corrupt. Well, I don’t agree with this basic assumption. It makes no sense, since it doesn’t correlate with what I see around me. Yes, it correlates with some people I can observe, but far from all. Most people I know are kind, compassionate, generous and giving.
Thus, I can’t see how spreading your idea can help. On the contrary, I believe spreading the idea that Man is compassionate and sharing when given the chance will help, because that is what I see around me. And I believe we can create a society where sharing and generosity is the prevalent mindset. I believe it is only a matter of waking up to the possibility and putting it into praxis.
Now, I thank you for being a neysayer, as it helps us build the foundation for this film and explain what we believe in even more thorough.
Thank you.
April 4, 2012 at 10:43 pm
There’s two ways we can go about this.
We can assume Cane is right and that humanity is corrupt by it’s very nature. Humanity will continue to speed up it’s own self-destruction, and eventually, humans will go the way of the dodo. So, why continually fret over humanity’s stupidity and eventual demise? All it does is cause depression, anxiety, and a host of other mental issues.
We can assume that Harald and the rest of us working towards a better world are right, and continue working towards that better future.
Contingency plans are all well and fine, but constantly reinforcing the idea that a better world can never happen and that we are all doomed to fail is hardly a contingency plan.
March 28, 2012 at 7:01 am
Read Alfie Kohn’s No Contest (or watch video of his seminar-lecture on it)… or TVP’s answers about Human Nature v/s Human Behavior debate.
March 24, 2012 at 1:43 pm
I read your message Cane, and all I can say is; Look around you. There are big changes occurrin in people all around the world,, in case you haven’t noticed.
March 24, 2012 at 2:47 pm
Yes, I agree. There are big changes in the world: Circular use of resources, Technologies that allow the blind to see 80% of normal, The Venus Project, Synthetic Life, Human DNA Mapped, Cassini Probe mission, James Web Telescope, TMT (Thirty Meter Telescope) and on and on.
But the human animal’s nature hasn’t kept up with the advances in the human animal’s collection of knowledge.
I live in the USA, and people in the US government seem aboard a runaway train to ignorance. Carl Sagan noticed before he died that the US government got rid of their Science Advisory Committee. Dr. Sagan asked, (I paraphrase here: who is going to make the decisions about science if the public is ignorant of what science is?
I don’t follow the news, so I do not know what the European countries are doing, but I suspect they are not on a much better road. If anyone knows about the rest of the world, please let me know.
I love optimism, but I only believe in reality.
March 25, 2012 at 3:14 pm
For those who see life in what they call “reality”, how about looking into philosophy?
Check out this documentary about Philosophy and the Matrix.
April 8, 2012 at 8:35 pm
“A passion must be accompanied with some false judgment, in order to its being unreasonable; and even then it is not the passion, properly speaking, which is unreasonable”. (Hume)
It is not unreasonable to believe that it is possible for everybody to believe that everybody deserves the same. it is not unreasonable for humans to use a RBE to attain sustainability and provide future generations a world without limitations.
April 27, 2012 at 3:23 pm
well will see … you are right the human can’t do this … why else?
May 17, 2012 at 10:46 pm
I’m with John. It’s only constructive if you provide materials by which to build. In other words – that was a useless comment. Sorry
March 23, 2012 at 4:21 am
The ideas of the Venus project to me relate to concepts of Paolo Soleri, who came up with the terms “Arcology” based on architecture-ecology, basically a sustainable city-within-a-building. These to me remind me of the ideas of Jacques Fresco and his computerised-sustainable cities of the Venus Project.
I myself hope to contribute to the Zeitgeist/VEnus Project idea by writing a novel based around the history of humanity leading up to a post-scarcity, Venus-Project, Arcology, Waking-up project.
March 12, 2012 at 1:00 pm
This is a great idea and I love that this type of film is actually being made by way of collaboration. It is already a start in the right direction towards the outcome of the film and helping change our future in that direction, get people thinking about it more.
I’ve not read everything to be honest, I have literally just bumped into this for the first time now.
This type of film is gaining increasing importance in helping to educate humanity as to our need of each other, working together despite and above our differences for the benefit of the whole society. I am not sure if there is an explanation in the film of why the world “turned” towards this mindset during the course of the future, how did they get to the decision, was if forced because of circumstances or a collective decision, or whichever way. I would like to think that with the proper education about our need for a global society, as “one big family”, that we actually realised the need ourselves and started working towards change, much rather than the other option – having been forced into it by extremely dire circumstances, wars, famine, poverty, etc…
Could a possibility be that people started realising that we could no longer live in our old egoistic, greedy ways and have taken it upon themselves to work towards helping others realise that our inherent competitive human nature simply no longer served the purpose of furthering our own lives, but will eventually become the downfall of all if not changed? Perhaps these people also realised that although they may not have liked what they saw, that they could exclude noone, but only with everyone in the equation could humanity move forward? How about them realising that it wasn’t to save their own skin that they had to save humanity, but rather they ended up saving themselves also as a result of putting the collective needs above their own?
This may sound like crazy-talk to some, but then – this film probably also sounds like crazy-talk to many. I would even wonder here – is it not the “crazy-talk” that ends up changing our world..?
Wasn’t it considered stir-crazy when people started saying the world is round? Weren’t people bent over double laughing at the prospect of man flying? Hmmm… I wonder what the reaction was of the first person approached with the notion of landing on the moon…?
Looking at this, I am all for crazy-talk! With enough “crazy-talk” and the proper education of our need to become an integral humanity in an integral world, for the benefit of society above those of ourselves, we may reach much better results than simply landing on the moon in generations not that far into the future.
I like this kind of crazy-talk!
Thank you for making this film and for aiding in educating humanity to our need for change, our need to become one big, global family.
March 25, 2012 at 6:43 pm
Thank YOU for your comment! Yes, ‘crazy talk’ is what we’re all about. The ‘crazy’ notion of Peace on Earth and abundance for all!
March 9, 2012 at 12:23 pm
I had an idea where I would create a community that invited all kinds of people both beginners and professionals to share ideas and concepts on food production.
Our community is growing quickly. We try to help people understand that there is always help and the spirit of community is still there within each of us. We teach aquaponics but we are also showing people other things on survival too.
www.facebook.com/HowFishPoopCanFeedYou
We are also on Google.
Now we do radio and I would love to invite you to join us there one-day and talk about what you are doing. Please e-mail me if you would like to join us, I would love to speak to you. We can promote this wonderful concept you have. www.blogtalkradio.com/aquaponicssurvivalcommunities
By the way the name of your movie is also the name of my blog “Waking Up Humanity”
We have to help and build each other up. We are brothers and sisters all in the same boat. We empower each other with connection in anyway we can. We are doctors sending out our message to others who are still caught in the maze of madness.
Love and Blessings
Victoria
February 20, 2012 at 2:50 am
One thought on the idea of Transition is that I think long before you have cities like Jacque Fresco describes in his Venus Project, is you will have things like the EarthShip Communities such as you have in Say Tyler Texas and Taos New Mexico.
These buildings are very similar in some concepts to what the Venus Project is envisioning and they are generally centred around a communal Effort to be self sufficient and produce all their own food and resources.
Here are some links for those that want to check them out.
Texas Community
www.biotechturetraining.com/index.html
The Taos Community where it all started
earthship.com
February 20, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Yes, I know about them. I’m thinking the future in the film will be a mix of these kinds of communities, new more ‘Venus Project’ like cities and still some parts of old cities, though highly modernized.
February 20, 2012 at 12:00 am
Are you guys going to be running a kickstarter or other crowd sourced campaign for this?
February 20, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Yes, eventually. But we need more followers first. A subscriber list of 10.000 would have helped….
February 18, 2012 at 5:55 pm
Hey awesome film and some great ideas.
Theirs alot of talk about vibrations and the like. Until we have an RBE and can devote some unbiased research into the “spiritual” we aught to tone it down. The majority of scientists and engineers (people we need most) will be scared away if half of us are gibber gibbering about auras vibrations and whatnot. An RBE is a practical scientific solution and it needs to be presented and represented in that way or we loose.
March 1, 2012 at 7:02 pm
David Wilcock has vast amounts of scientific data in the “spiritual/vibration” field (what he refers to as the “source field”) Check out divinecosmos.com. I’ll admit I was a little sceptical myself at first, but he backs up the things he says with tangible evidence and documented research.
March 12, 2012 at 9:38 pm
Umm still no. David Wilcock does not make up the majority of the scientifically literate folks. Therefore I agree with Sean. Tone down the spiritual stuff. You can have it in the script, where one of the female lead’s friends (if the viewers get to see her friends), talks about his/her beliefs of new age type spirituality. Then another one of her friends can be the more tech loving, more scientifically materialist person who disagrees with new age spirituality but both agree to disagree and yet coexist. Thus portraying new age spirituality/vibration not as better or worse than other views, but as a path in life worth exploring.
March 12, 2012 at 10:00 pm
There are a 1000 ways to portray this film. And if it is chosen to put ‘spiritual’ stuff in there it will be done with subtlety and finesse. But what is ‘spiritual’ stuff anyway? It is a miracle we are here at all. That my body functions. That I can think. That my braincells happen to look like clusters of galaxies. Science does not have all the answers, and mystery is essential to any good movie. And honestly, scientists are not more important than the rest of us. Unless we all wake up to how this world is run and how we can get out of it by opening our hearts and minds, it won’t help with a billion scientists.
February 8, 2012 at 9:58 pm
SO COLLABORATORS, ARE YOU UP FOR MAKING THE WAKING UP MOVIE SCRIPT REAL OPEN SOURCE? I REALLY HAVE TO ASK YOU, SINCE EVERYTHING THAT’S WRITTEN IN THE DOCUMENTS IS NOT MINE. I GUESS YOU ARE OK WITH IT, BUT I’D LIKE TO BE ASSURED. THE DOCUMENTS I THINK MAKING OPEN SOURCE ARE ‘THE WORLD’, ‘THE STORY’ AND ‘THE SCRIPT’, BOTH THE SANDBOX AND AND NON-SANDBOX VERSIONS. THE CREATIVE COMMONS LICENSE I HAVE IN MIND IS THIS: creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/
February 8, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Well of course. What other form of licensing would we want to use, if we all advocate RBE?
February 11, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Looks like we go for the Creative Commons ‘Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported (CC BY-NC-SA 3.0 creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/)’ for the script. This means that I for all practical reasons have to be the ‘copyright holder’ since the license requires one person/legal entity to be that. I am planning to start a non-profit in Sweden that can take over this role, but for now it will be me. This in turn will mean that all script collaborators (including me) in reality is donating their contributions to this project. I will include this in the ‘contribution rules and guidelines’. It looks like everyone are ok with this, but here’s a last chance to state your opinion.
February 8, 2012 at 4:44 pm
Looks awesome, but doesn’t appear to be actually open source. You might want to look into what open source means, but unless you are publishing all of your source film footage and production materials to something like the public domain or the creative commons, this wouldn’t qualify. Being able to write in to the core creative team with suggestions and making various contributions is not an example of open source. While I love your movie, I strongly urge you to either remove mentionings of “open source” in your marketing, or publish all of the source files used to create this movie freely/libre under something like the “creative commons” lisence and allow anyone, to use the raw footage for their own remixing and derrivitive works and basically really make this an open source project. Otherwise, while still fitting the definition of totally awesome, this is just not open source. For example, I don’t need anyone’s permission to get and modify a copy of the source code to Linux and make and republish it with my own modifications as I see fit, without having to contact any authority. All I have to do is grab a copy of the freely published files and adhere to the lisence standards. Anyways, best of luck, cool movie.
February 8, 2012 at 9:41 pm
Thanks for your praise. But you are completely right, Kao, and we’ve had that discussion before here. Open source can’t be ‘all rights reserved’. So far it has meant ‘open collaboration’.
I think it’s about time we take a deeper look into the different creative commons licenses and choose one for this project. I personally have no problem doing it. The only thing that has held me back a little is ‘what the other collaborators would think’ and ‘what investors/funds/film industry’ would think.
At this point we have gathered enough collaborators, I should think, to get an opinion from them (except, the last time I tried to get one, there was very little response. Maybe i just have to cut through).
When it comes to investors/funds/film industry I have no clue what they will say about investing in/supporting an open source film project, but I guess we just have to take our chances. The film industry is so full of ‘rights this’ and ‘rights that’, and if the script is something ‘anyone’ can go and make a film out of, where would their ROI be?
In any case, the film is all about an ‘open source society’, so to not be hypocrites, I think we simply have to make the jump and hope for the best.
The ‘worst thing’ that can happen is that someone takes the script and makes a movie out of it, and honestly, what is better than that? It doesn’t stop anyone else to make another movie from the same script. And then we have two interpretations that
By the way, at the moment there’s not much footage to talk about with this film. It is the script that is open source at the moment. I don’t mind someone making something nice out of the existing footage, though, but that’s not really the point.
February 8, 2012 at 10:13 pm
That’s awesome Harald. I’m all for that. The link you put up looks like a good start, it seems to be working well for other projects. I’d fully read into it, make sure you can still apply to film festivals or whatever current plans may be, etc. Best of luck, can’t wait, and open collaboration is really a great step forward, thanks
February 8, 2012 at 8:24 am
Thank you so much for taking an initiative in making this film. Its the need of the hour. Just read the script and its fantastic.
February 8, 2012 at 10:38 am
Well, thank you! Far from finished, but getting there…
February 8, 2012 at 3:44 am
A Thought or Reminder To The Writers,
This may been have mentioned already. If so, I missed it and I offer my apologies for the redundancy:
I think the RBE should be thought of as a character, not just a setting. By that I mean, it needs to intertwine within the story and interact with the characters as much as possible. It should not just be a sideshow. The characters and story shouldn’t be interchangeable to the RBE. It all needs to sync up and make the audience think, “those characters and that story couldn’t have been a more perfect fit to that setting.”
Happy Writing!
February 8, 2012 at 10:39 am
Very good point Andrew.
Everybody, listen up!
February 8, 2012 at 1:24 am
Hello Harald,
I applaud you idea and vision for this film.
May I suggest an additional scene with Ben and his daughter before being cryogenically frozen. He makes a promise that he’ll always be with her.
With tears streaming down her sweet little face, she begs, “Daddy…. please come back to me when you wake up. I’m scared.”
This may help set up the motivation for Ben to relentlessly search for her in 2112 .
Best Regards,
John
February 8, 2012 at 10:36 am
Thank you, good idea!
This is a little detail that can have big consequences in the film and can help it move forward.
This is what we need folks, more ideas like this….
More “plot points”…
Keep ‘em coming!
February 3, 2012 at 6:46 pm
I reply here since we can’t reply any more to the long topic below
You asked a very big question: “How will the transport of the future look like?”
Surprisingly – I can give you some easy answers.
Yes, the ET3 system seems very possible. It would be nice to see it someday.
All “cars” will be fueled by HYDROGEN.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=woOtOuWnB1E
It leaves NO EMISSIONS (the by-product is WATER), it stores lot’s of power and moreover – hydrogen can be easy produced on-site from fresh water. It is also a lot safer that petroleum and it is better than electric-cars in many ways.
Most likely the cars will be hydrogen-electric hybrids.
You may also find interesting that the “canister” that will contain the hydrogen will be a rock.
Yes – a rock.
All future “cars” (as-well as other means of transport) will be automatically driven.
I’am quoting “Cars” because, the concept of what we think is a “Car” will change. Most transport will be replaced by so called “Podcars” which is a “Personal rapid transit system”.
I could explain it, but it’s easier to see it with you’r own eyes:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7hgipbHBK8
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_rapid_transit
www.global-its.org/
When united, people will finally, create the engineers dream.
The “Trans Global Highway”.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans_Global_Highway
www.didik.com/highway/
New types of planes, based on new concepts of air-flow will be developed, that will use only a fraction of the fuel it uses today, and will be totally silent:
www.enjoyspace.com/en/news/nasa-s-airplanes-of-the-future
However – only time will tell on how much (and how) this will change.
They will not use conventional fuel (since there will be non of if at 2112), but will be propelled by methane, hydrogen or electricity.
Most likely, airships will be popular again.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm_d0P4cMcw
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5K1ZDs-li0
However, there will be a completely new popular type of air-transport, called “SSTO”. Those are basically “planes” that can go into Earth’s orbit without rockets, and be anywhere in the world in a mater of minutes…or send tourist to orbital hotels, or the Moon.
www.flightglobal.com/blogs/hyperbola/assets_c/2009/02/skylon_orbit_3l-thumb-560×373-26173.jpg
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-stage-to-orbit
I think that covers the basics. Is there something more I can answer?
February 3, 2012 at 7:54 am
As a fellow film producer, I aplaud your efforts in the making of this film. Your trailer is very well done and inspiring. It really gets the creative juices flowing. Thank You.
With that said, I see a future where we will all become part of One. Science meets Spirituality. In your research please visit (forgive me if you already have) these links: www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JiYLR0tSp4&feature=player_embedded
www.greggbraden.com/
I believe in the future we will learn how to alter particles as One. Our heart gives out a powerful electromagnetic frequency that can radiate out for meters and even miles. We are participators in the creative process of the Universe. When we learn how to be at peace inside our “self”, love our “self”, not hurt our “self”, then and only then will we truly understand how not to hurt everyone and everthing else in our universe. I hope these thoughts will help in your research. This I believe would make your film truly stand out from the typical Syfi type movies about the future.
Thank You. Peace & Love Within and with All.
Ron
February 3, 2012 at 11:21 am
Thank you Ron! Yes, I believe in those exact things myself. The Oneness, the Self, and that Humanity is on the verge of a shift to a higher frequency and vibration. Lower vibrational levels will be left behind.
I have read a little of Gregg, and a lot of others and the general information about this. I definitely want to include stuff like this in the film to make it deeper.
I am glad people like you now start to show up, as I think it has been a bit too big emphasis on the technological scifi part. Still, I see a beautiful marriage between human spirit and technology.
Truly, our technology and how we use it is only a result of our combined consciousness.
February 18, 2012 at 6:44 pm
Greetting Harald
Thanks for considering my thoughts on combining science and technology with the vibrational / spiritual in the film. A number of scientists are starting to look deeply into this and are realizing that there is something there. We are all part of that. Particles react to it.
Here’s an Idea: You could perhaps include this in the movie by having some kind of future technology that can measure / tap into this vibration in order to manifest or create things from particles for the good of humanity. Perhaps this could be part of the “waking up” process for Ben to learn this. He discovers how the world is not about material / monetary things being primary, but our needs and happiness come from pure vibrational energy transforming things into matter.
Perhaps its just an ordinary part of everyday life and Ben has to get accustomed to it. He asks if he can do this too. Aweena tells him “yes you can”. But Ben soon learns that he can only tap into it if it doesn’t involve greedy misuse.
You could present this in a way that doesn’t sound too preachy, (definately not religious) not too supernatural in order to maintain a large audience and interest. Hope this helps and my explaination was understandable.
Love & Peace
Ron
February 20, 2012 at 12:01 pm
Hi Ron,
It’s an interesting proposition. Still, we would need some more ‘meat on the bone’ for that to be plausible.
Even though, water already reacts to human thought and produces beautiful crystals when exposed to positive thoughts and words (love, gratitude, etc), while it only gets murky while exposed to negative thoughts and words (hate, anger, etc).
Maybe this can be a way of showing this…
February 20, 2012 at 2:19 pm
Thanks Harald
I have found that in a fear based system, its easy to make a zombie movie, horror movie, some type of action packed violent, materialistic film and get people to watch. But to get people to watch a film about a positive future based on harmony, love, and connection will take some creative thinking. It will truly be a beautiful thing if we can pull it off. 
We would want to keep the viewer engaged, involved and make them believe that all of this is absolutely possible. Make them believe that we can change our world, change our future right now. The movie I feel needs to move people so much that they walk out of the theater longing to be part of something like that. Perhaps a brochure could be handed to them showing how they could participate. The late comedian Bill Hicks said about our future “we can change it anytime we want” Each individual has to make a choice! Love is always a choice! That’s what makes it love. You might find some of the information I have provided on connectedwithlove.org helpful on this. “Love with work, will work!”
I agree with your “more meat on the bone” comment
On your other point, I find the research on how water reacts to thought, emotion and heart frequencies so fascinating. Especially how good thoughts align and bad thoughts don’t. Kind of like what I was saying how Ben discovers that he can only tap into it if it doesn’t involve greedy misuse.
I think in the the future we will discover our true potential.
I’ve also been researching lately the pine cone shaped pineal gland deep in the middle of our brains. Ancients called it the third eye and it even has the same makeup as the retina. Here’s a video I posted about it on my website: connectedwithlove.org/sharelove/video/view/81 Perhaps that’s how Aweena is able to view images in her mind when on the CD. It taps directly into her pineal gland and she visualizes them in her mind.
Could it be in the future we will be able to make our transportation move with pure thoughts. Interesting stuff.
People have been programmed in this system to believe that they are weak and must depend on the system (be enslaved) in order to live. We have to help people to wake up and realize that they are more than that. That they were born to be someone else and not what the system made them into. Then we can change the future.
Forgive the long comment my Friend. I hope something in here will help.
Love & Peace
Ron
January 31, 2012 at 10:13 am
I’am a futurist and I have some Ideas that you might like. Here is a short list. Respond if you like them, and I will make more:
1. Everyone talks in LOJBAN. —> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojban
Sure – everyone knows they’r national language (English, Polish, German, Chinease etc.) , but when it comes to talking to someone from another country, they will most likely speak in the “Logical-language”.
2. Food printers (Food synthesizer) will provide a healthy and tasty meal . —> inhabitat.com/mits-digital-food-printer-creates-nutritious-meals/2/
This machine CREATES the food by combining proteins, lipids and sugars (extracted from simple algae), adding taste-molecules and vitamins, just like our microwave today. (in fact – you can use a microwave in the movie). Food of the future will be always tasty.
3. Everyone drinks Syntohol instead of regular alcohol. —> www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6874884/Alcohol-substitute-that-avoids-drunkenness-and-hangovers-in-development.html
It has no negative-effects. There are no drunk’s in the future.
4. No more killing animals for meat. You can grow synthetic meat in a bioreactor.
—> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_vitro_meat
5. No more transplantology. A Bio-Printer will “create” you a new organ from you’r cell’s. —> www.organovo.com/news/press/17
6. Bio-Chips (in you’r left hand) will check you’r vital signs, and search for certain anti-bodies. You will know if you are sick (and start treating yourselve) before you feel the first sympthoms. If you faint or be in a bad shape – the chip will call for 911 to help you.
7. A list of colonized space-bodies at the time of the movie:
The Moon – with a large city in it’s North Pole, that mines Helium-3 for the nuclear reactors on Earth.
L5 Point – a gigantic space-base that will forever station in the point where Earth’s and Moon’s gravity are equal. Huge manufacturing and scientific place. Spaceships of the future are made there. It will also be a sensor facility for SETI.
Mars – There are several colonies that are preparing Mars to be our 2nd home. They also mine Deuterium, Thorium and CREEP elements there and sends them to Earth in a transporter ships called MARS CYCLER’s —> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_cycler
Phobos – Mars moon. A little logistic base, that transports cargo and crew to/from Mars.
Asteroid belt behind Mars – mined by automated drones. They have practically UNLIMITED RESOURCES, and can be mined for thousands of years by man, to ensure that humans have all the resources they need.
8. Claytronics furniture – you buy one, you have them all.
—> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claytronics
9. Nanofabricator…just like in StarTrek, but true:
—> www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqyZ9bFl_qg
10. Electronic tatoos popular. You can print electronics systems inside you’r skin using conducting electricity ink. In other words – you can have a TV displayed BY YOUR HAND. —> walyou.com/program-your-digital-tattoo-designs-to-present-an-image-mood-or-reminder/
If you are interested in some new idead, Iam glad to help:
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February 1, 2012 at 12:14 am
Wow Marko, Thank you!
Lot’s of interesting stuff here. Much that I hadn’t heard of before. I’m hoping we have some kind of ‘free energy’ though, so we don’t have to rely on nuclear power. Something derived from magnets, the Rodin coil or the Bashar space time antenna.
Please keep the links coming! Very helpful.
February 1, 2012 at 6:08 am
We will have Nuclear Fusion.
Clean. Endless energy. Gigantic energy. Almost no nuclear by-products, and It should be available by 2040 (+ another 20 years to be popular and another 20 years to completely overrun the energy industry).
Since as a fuel we use Hydrogen and Helium (various types of fusion) which are THE MOST ABUNDANT RESOURCES IN THE UNIVERSE, this type of energy will be endless, and it even may make the energy FREE in the future.
Wind, Solar and Tidal renewable energy can only provide a tiny fraction of the energy that can be generated by the fusion…and thus…NUCLEAR FUSION IS THE FUTURE.
—> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fusion
However…there are OTHER futuristic types of energy generation. One of which I want to mention to you.
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POWER-SAT (also know as Space Solar Power)
—> www.powersat.com/
—> www.nss.org/settlement/ssp/index.htm
It’s a gigantic solar collector that hovers between Earth and Sun and generates energy. I mention it because it is very easy to show it in the film. One of your characters may simply look up in the DAY-sky, and notice:
“- Hey! What’s that shiny star up in the sky. That has never been there before, was it?
– Oh that? That’s just a satellite…REALLY BIG satellite. It collects solar energy 24h/day and thus, we have lots of electric power.
– Doesn’t it bother you that there’s A STAR that you can see DURING THE DAY?
– What? Didn’t you have a SUN back in your century?
February 2, 2012 at 11:28 am
Thanks for the links! Yes, there are many possibilities for energy. I think there will be a combination of several methods and sources. There is no doubt in my mind though, that cheap energy can be harnessed right from the atmosphere/vacuum flux, like Tesla already did. There are many devices already in development extremely much cheaper than nuclear fusion and space solar power. To me, this film is not only about what is possible, but what is desirable. I would much more desire a world where we are able to harness the kinds of energies Tesla and others harnessed, energies that are readily available all around us, rather than spending extreme amounts of money and resources by ‘crossing the creek for water’. The energy is right here, everywhere.
February 2, 2012 at 3:39 pm
I’am sorry but I totally don’t agree.
You see – you need to understand the difference between science and fiction.
As a futurist I see the future as It can be build considering the time and science limits. If you don’t obey those rules, you are basically, creating a fairy-tail, no different than “Lord of the rings”.
And that will make the movie unrealistic and not taken seriously as a possible future for US, if we chose Resource Based Economy.
Lots of stuff that has been posted on the “world” script is a TOTAL FICTION, and has nothing to do with the real world.
For instance:
- Ant-gravity. You assume that humans will somehow invent it, even thou no-one today has any idea on how to do that. You post links that prove that someone has builded a functioning prototype, so they will surely be used in the future…But you don’t take into consideration that those sites ARE A LIE. If something like that worked, real scientist would know about it. Nobel prise is waiting.
- Vacuum flux energy. If someone suggest that this could be used to power our civilization in about 100 years, it only shows he doesn’t understand how quantum physics work. To put it simple – you cannot harness that power unless you have a solar system-sized engine. Good luck with that…
But why bother? You have a perfectly good (endless, wasteless, existing and efficient) power supply —> Fusion.
- Elimination of religions. Not only this is not true, since the basis of all religions is FAITH (and not the current socio-political order), but also this fact suggest that Resource Based Economy is nothing more than a Modern Communism.
The same thing with “Kid sharing”, “No Pope” and “No marriage”, “New calendar”…communism did that.
I’am not telling you that, because I want to destroy your vision or something.
I’am telling you this because I share the main aspect of your vision (Resource Bases Economy) and I want you to succeed.
February 5, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Hi Marco!
I would like to suggest you do a thorough research on Viktor Schrauberger’s work. Callum Coats wrote fife high quality books on Viktor’s life long work on ecotechnology. I’d suggest to read the Living Energies and the Energy Evolution that explains his inventions including his flying saucer anti gravity machine. It also can be used to produce free energy if fixed to the ground. Hitler forced him to work for him during the II. world war that’s where the german foo-fighters originate from.
I would also suggest you read the book called Hunt For Zero Point by Nick Cook. Please read about Nikola Tesla he also managed to tap into zero point or vacuum energy. He also managed to produce energy by amplifying small currents with his invention the Tesla coil.
As I know you are interested in science and as I understand you maybe spiritual I would love to share with you what I found last year. A man’s work called Walter Russell who explained the universe in such a revolutionary way that it is still not accepted by the main stream scientists today. His periodic table contains more elements than Mendeleev’s and he had predicted the existence of uranium and deuterium before they were discovered. It’s a good start with reading the book called The man who tapped the secrets of the universe by Glenn Clark. I was also advised to do the same.
Most of these advanced science are being kept as a secret before humanity or being ridiculed by the so called elite who are controlling us today otherwise they couldn’t control us and we all would be free, happy and completely fulfilled.
I agree with you what you said about religion. Humanity has always been spiritual and always will be. Even the ones who think today that they are not spiritual may find God within themselves one day.
All the best
Joseph
February 6, 2012 at 10:15 am
Hello Joseph!
Excuse my language, but I must be harsh here.
What you posted here IS NOTHING MORE THEN
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudoscience
It has nothing to do on how the real world works, it cannot be confirmed, it the lacks supporting evidence or plausibility and cannot be reliably tested,
The fact that the author stated his ideas in a science-looking book cover DOES NOT MAKE THEM REAL.
The people who support that kind of stuff, are un-willingly supporting THE DOWNFALL OF CIVILIZATION. They are taking a STEP BACK in our development, since pseudoscience like Nicola’s Tesla Perpetium Mobile or Viktor Schrauberger’s anti-gravity flying saucer that generates endless energy from nothing, ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ASTROLOGY, OCCULTISM or ALTERNATIVE MEDICINE.
The authors of such pseudoscience ideas & books, are a fraud that want to make money out of you, or are a real scientists that have psychological problems.
No-one who believes in that stuff, will ever admit that perpetium mobile, free energy and anti-gravity (or other) are not working, unexplained and unreliable…and thus’ are a Pseudoscience!
They tend to think that EVERYONE ELSE IS FALSE!
That other scientist are stupid, the current known laws of the physics are totally wrong, or the government is keeping it all in secret by some sort of mega-consipracy.
Here is a list of what is considered a pseudoscience:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_topics_characterized_as_pseudoscience
Please…
Instead of reading why World War II UFO’s aren’t flying, read something that tells you why is something WORKING.
Like…Einstains Relativity, Theory of Evolution or Quantum Physics.
No mater how BIZZARE it is…it works.
We use it all the time, and over 1000 experiments all over the world have approved them.
I tell you this because I care about what you think (and not to anger you or something…). Otherwise, I would not have responded.
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About the spirituality of the future:
I tend to see nothing that would connect RBE with the development of religion.
Although I believe that it is good to believe in something that will shape you’r life, as long as humans will have a choice to believe, whether humans spirituality will rise or fall, then it will make no difference to the individuals.
However.
It must be noted that recently a new tendency emerges.
We now start to understand how the Universe itself was created and works. We know about the Big Bang, Inflation, Parallel Universes (described by the M-theory), collapse of symmetry theory, antimatter annihilation and other fascinating things.
If this trends keep up…in 100 years we might discover THE HOLY GRAIL OF COSMOLOGY….THE THEORY OF EVERYTHING.
To put it simply – we will know “WHY?” everything happened.
It’s possible that we will reveal what was the God’s role in the creation of the universe.
In fact – it might answer once-and-for-all the question about the existence of God.
February 6, 2012 at 8:29 pm
Hi Marco!
Thanks for your quick reply its good to have a meaningful excange of ideas with you.
I understand what you mean,
Just one more question.
How would you explain scientifically the migration of trout upstream. I mean what’s their secret of being able to swim upstream so much distance?
Joseph
February 6, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Hi.
Some news about Mars:
www.zeitnews.org/space-science/surface-of-mars-an-unlikely-place-for-life-after-600-million-year-drought-say-scientists.html
So it might change the willingness to establish bases other than scientific there.
Comment on synthetic meat and automatic food assembly – won’t believe it until I try it and can tell no difference (from genuine food). Sorry
February 20, 2012 at 9:10 pm
Dear Marco,
Our conversation seems to have stopped. I’m still waiting for your answer on how the trout manage to migrate upstream such distances in so rapid waters. I found the most reasonable and logical answer in Viktor Schrauberger’s work. I watched a documentary about it on the BBC by David Attenborough some years ago his conclusion was that the trout do it with muscle power and luck, its almost magical how they manage it. That sounds total rubbish after getting a logical explanation from somebody who spent his life observing nature and finding logical answers to lots of natures secrets.
I have got to say I was a bit surprised and shocked about your opinion of Nikola Tesla’s and Viktor Schrauberger’s work. Your interpretation and labelling them pseudo scientists and claiming that their devices don’t work simply false. Anybody suggesting these things about them clearly hasn’t got much information about them and you sound to me projecting other people’s ideas about them without doing a proper research in the topic from all possible angle and coming to a conclusion based on logic.
Schrauberger had patents on his devices and they were working that’s why some American businessman deceived him to give his patent rights for funds in return when he had already been ill before his death.
Tesla had over 700 patents and wasn’t the kind of person who would claim something without successful experiments and evidence. He had to battle with Edison over AC and DC and Tesla won.
Tesla invented the wireless transition of information and power a hundred years ago and we still have the main electric cables hanging everywhere. Tesla was cut off all funds when his sponsor found out that he wanted to give everybody free energy transported wireless. These are all facts that most people haven’t heard of. As long as we have the monetary system there will always be corruption, and corporations serve only their profit motive at whatever cost to humanity and planet earth.
I said I understand what you were saying about this because I may be saying something similar now if I hadn’t done a thorough research about it. A couple of years ago I would have agreed on more things with you. But I kept looking for answers with an open mind and changed my opinion in a lot of topics.
I don’t find Einstain’s Relativity, Theory of Evolution or Quantum Physics bizarre but there are certain gaps, assumptions and there are new theories coming from time to time and some of the old ones are scraped. Einstain and nobody could find a proper theory including gravitation for example.
There was a genius called Walter Russell who had a new concept of the universe in 1926 but most people called him crazy. So many times had happened this before. When the first aeroplane were being built some scientists were writing books at the same time why it is impossible to fly. There are always some sceptics who find it difficult to comprehend revolutionary ideas and if everybody would listen to them we would not have aeroplanes or other new technologies.
I like that you seem to understand and value the concept of the RBE, you have made the first steps to the right direction.
I got most of my knowledge by reading books and watching documentaries. Neil from V-radio gave me a lot of education through his radio shows and by his recommended documentaries on all topics.
You might be interested to check out the one called ‘Who killed the electric car’ or the one called ‘Light bulb conspiracy’ or Burzynski The movie Cancer is serious business.
Very mind opening films. I was very angry and outraged when I found out there is cure for cancer but large corporate pharmaceutical companies are blocking the research of it because it’s success will mean loosing most of their profits on presently used medicines of treating cancer.
All the best
with respect
Joseph
February 20, 2012 at 10:35 pm
I am totally with you Joseph.
This film is about WHAT WE WANT TO HAVE ON THIS PLANET based on what MIGHT be possible. For sure, I want some kind of free energy and anti gravity technology freeing mankind completely.
This film IS wishful thinking. Accepting a future world without money and ownership where there is a ‘global family’ living in relative peace and harmony is wishful in itself. Thus, accepting anti gravity and free energy shouldn’t be much more difficult.
I think it is possible, but the knowledge has been subdued.
April 5, 2012 at 12:25 am
When Gene Roddenberry first began putting together Star Trek, he wanted to create a future world based on plausible technology that may exist in the future. Many of the devices that were in the series actually exist now. He didn’t add in ‘technology’ based on ideas that people dropping acid around the campfire came up with, even if they put on a suit and published a book the next day. Instead, he worked with NASA’s scientists and asked questions about how realistic his ideas were and what the scientists thought might be possible. He then proceeded to work with them on trying to test the theories behind all the gizmos his characters would use. For instance, when the tricorder was introduced in the series, nothing like it existed, though many of the concepts that would allow something like that to work were sound, and had been vetted by NASA’s scientists. Today, we have cellphones and smartphones, or tricorders as they were called in the show.
Ideas are all well and fine, but if you want people to watch the film and consider your vision as a plausible possibility, you’ll have to start a vetting process for the ideas flooding in. As it stands, all this talk of anti-gravity, vibrations, auras, vacuum energy, and all the other debunked pseudoscience notions simply screams ‘tin-hat ideas for fringe types who are just waiting for their cup of koolaid to free them from their bodies and let them join with the imaginary space men chillin’ in the tail of a comet’.
I’d rather this be a movie about moving towards an RBE and what sort of world we could plausibly expect. I’d rather not see a movie that ends up being an incoherent montage of conspiracy theories.
Anyone can claim to be a scientist, write a book of nonsense, self-publish it (or make a website for a fake publisher of ‘sound scientific theories’ which are nothing more than acid trip recollections), put on a suit, start up a web-cam, and add text afterwards. Real scientists have to use the scientific method and publish their findings in peer reviewed scientific publications.
As has been said elsewhere, skepticism is a good thing.
February 2, 2012 at 6:33 pm
There is some in it. I’d vote for making it less sci-fi as well. OTOH, there might be things which are not known (thought of) now at all.
Kid-sharing? I wouldn’t do that
And marriage has proven quite useful if made by responsible people.
New calendar? Why complicate things?
Cheers!
February 3, 2012 at 10:35 am
Yes! On The Other Hand, there Might be things which are not as ‘present’ as nuclear fusion might be, but that doesn’t mean they can not become MORE present. OTOH, space solar power isn’t actually very present either.
Speaking about the ‘realism’ in this project. To me, the thought of a global resource based economy is at the moment only a dream and a ‘thought experiment’ and not very present either in the mass consciousness. It is basically a ‘fairy tale’ at the moment.
So, if one believes in the ‘fairy tale’ of an ‘RBE future’, which is the whole foundation for this film, one might as well also believe in a future type of ‘free energy’ and ‘anti gravity’ technology. There’s no difference in realism here.
February 3, 2012 at 4:26 pm
But essentially there is a difference.
Nuclear fusion, Space solar collectors and Colonization of Moon/Mars and beyond are well known to theoretical science, and you only need the “resources” to obtain them.
Thus – resource based economy comes in hand.
For instance – we already have a working prototype fusion-reactor in ITER, and we have Fusion-bombs.
On the other hand…there is nothing in theoretical physics that allows the use of “antigravity” or “free energy”.
Someday, it may happen that humanity will discover the new laws of physics that allows them, and then use that new physics somehow for the benefit of humanity.
However – in the given time-frame (2112) it is not only unlikely, but nearly “impossible”.
I’am telling you that, because of the reasons stated earlier, but you do nut need to despair, they without those “fantasy” inventions the future will look dimmer.
In fact – I want to show you that there are theoretical inventions that are allowed by the know laws of science and are FAR MORE AMAZING!
For instance:
- faster than light communication
- quantum computers, that are more powerful than all the computers ever made combined
- quantum teleportation of small objects
- and others
Later-on, I will post more examples in hopes that it may be somewhat helpful to the movie. I’am just afraid that some “imaginary” technologies used in the film will overwhelm the real things. Hope to help.
- Marco
February 3, 2012 at 4:47 pm
Thanks Marco! I appreciate your comments. Honestly, I don’t care if it is ‘anti gravity’ or ‘free energy’ or some other technology that provides us with an abundance of energy and transportation needs. It might as well be more cool to show a global established ET3 system.
Speaking of transportation. How do you think we WILL transport ourselves in 2112, then? What will replace airplanes? It has to be something that is non-polluting and efficient. But I can’t imagine something with propellers or jet engines. Thus, it has to be something that flies without that, but some other kind of propulsion. What do you suggest?
Here’s a link on anti gravity by the way: www.antigravitytechnology.net/viktor_schauberger.html
Here’s also a film talking about anti gravity: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr_s28wIOzQ&list=PL4E7A58A552A4DFB2&index=19&feature=plpp_video
Here’s a simple magnetic motor: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pFoVNkwegw&list=PL4E7A58A552A4DFB2&index=33&feature=plpp_video
And here’s the space time antenna: basharspacetimeantenna.wordpress.com/about/
February 8, 2012 at 11:28 pm
I realize this is late addition to this conversation, but would like to add a few things.
I learned of RBE through the work of Jacque Fresco and the Venus Project. No sci-fi involved, he outlined opens for free energy already. Technology that is available here and now.
Not sure if you’ve heard of Amory Lovins from the Rocky Mountain Institute, but he talks about efficiencies that could be applied with the technology already available to us that would save over 60% of the resources we currently use.
So my contribution to this discussion is if we can save 60% with what we now know and there is already “FREE” energy solution available now, what’s the problem?
In addition, my contention is that if our insane method of monetizing the world was removed, that scientists, engineers and others could develop technologies and solutions that people of today would not be able to comprehend.
Here’s a quote that I feel is appropriate;
”In the early 20th century, most scientists theoretically agreed that the airplane was probably impossible. However, the Wright Brothers were too busy bolting a gas engine to some wings in their bicycle shop to care about erroneous opinions. Soon after, they defied the authorities and invented the once considered impossible – “flying machine”.
The fact is, when a scientist tells you something is possible, he is likely correct. However, when he states something is impossible, he is likely wrong. Science and technology have continued to defy prior assumptions of possibility, and will continue to do so. It can safely be assumed that whatever the future holds from a technological standpoint, it will likely seem impossible and “ridiculous” from the standpoint of today’s understandings and methods.”
Zeittgeist Introduction Manual
April 5, 2012 at 12:38 am
The first law of thermodynamics: The law of conservation of energy:
This states that energy can be neither created nor destroyed. However, energy can change forms, and energy can flow from one place to another. The total energy of an isolated system remains the same.
In other words, free energy is not possible according to the laws of physics. Energy can be free insofar as not having to pay for it, but it cannot just *poof* into existence. I’m sure that in the future will will solve the energy crisis and the solution may be something that has yet to be thought of; however, the solution will still have to follow the laws of physics, or if you prefer, the laws of nature.
March 6, 2012 at 10:20 am
Any solution in the future is likely to be tested in numerous situations, looking for empirical evidence for success. Therefore it is very likely we will have multiple solutions – I note someone saying the future of the car will be hydrogen powered – given the prevalence of cars now, I would suggest that in 100 years we will see numerous transport solutions (direction we are heading now) powered from multiple sources (some hydrogen, some solar, magnetic etc).
i probably wouldn’t focus too much on the technology but rather the story. The short was excellent but for this amazing new world to work we need to change the way people think and technology won’t do that.
Therefore I suggest that the rest of the movie look at how humans have addressed the fundamental aspects of human happiness rather than technological solutions. For example, how do we address equality and issues of inequality? I have read of major advances in social equality in countries like Sweden. Perhaps our movie could illustrate a flat hierarchy where everyone works on smaller projects toward a greater goal for improved human well being.
Roger
March 6, 2012 at 9:13 pm
Hi Roger,
I agree completely with you. The story is what we are focussing on now, and what you are suggesting is what I have in mind. No ‘hierarchy’, but rather networks of people working together. Coordinators, yes, but not ‘leaders’ per se.
Harald
January 17, 2012 at 10:38 pm
I have just browsed the story (opening episode). The plot is weak. The story depends largely upon travelogue to be filled in later because you still have no interesting ideas. The most exciting scene, the demolition, is the most implausible. It really isn’t likely that no one had informed his relatives prior to reanimation, and demolishing an entire city rather seems a poor sense of historical preservation unless they are hiding something, any more than his own personal com system failing to warn him about the demolition, unless there is an assassin in Utopia who hacked it! But all of that would actually be dramatic. Again, Utopia has always been a challenge to drama. But again, nothing in this Utopia actually ever rises to plot point. The story might be more easily set elsewhere.
January 17, 2012 at 11:47 pm
May I first ask you not to spam the site with several identical comments? I removed 2 of them. Now, since you seem to know it all, why don’t you suggest something concrete? Or are you only out to criticize and show how many fine words and formulations you know?
February 3, 2012 at 5:32 am
You bring up some good points, Aaron. You don’t do it in the nicest possible ways but let’s get past your manner problem for a moment and focus on those points.
Plot Points. The story is lacking conflict. That is what propels a story and most screenplays are tossed out for lack of conflict.
The Africa scene is interesting but it has a hole – the malfunctioning CD. It is hard to believe that we have mastered gravitational force but not yet wireless communication. When all people have been evacuated and the demolition of an entire city could be a better option in some instances. www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpyBwPQNyVU
Now, let me stop. I don’t want anyone to think that I am teaming up with this guy to bash our movie. I am dedicated toward making this picture the best example of a viable solution to most of the worlds problems. Not because I am a know it all, but because I am unsatisfied with certain aspects of our collective society and am driven to find better options. This is the best thing I could find to do with my time. This is okay but we can do better.
When people comment on this page with arguments to why this can’t work, I think we should welcome the debate in order to find truth. Even if they have nothing good to say, let them rip our work to sheds and we will pick up the pieces that are still intact and with them make a masterpiece.
I am just getting started at screenwriting and I’m cramming to get caught up enough to be a helpful asset to this project because I believe in it so much. In order to make Waking Up the best example it can be, we need to embrace the opposition and take their criticism as help. We don’t have all the answers and this should be an open discussion to find them. We certainly don’t want to have it picked apart on RottenTomatoes.com, it should be worthy of academic review, backed up by scholars and such. Before filming, Tom Six made sure that his idea for The Human Centipede was 100% medically accurate by hiring a surgeon to test his theory. We should have the same level of commitment to this project.
Back to your post, this is not a Utopia because there will be conflict. As we know not everyone in this world is responsible. There is still room in the world for human error. What that can be is undermined at this point.
This project is still a baby and requires love, attention, respect, and intelligence to grow up into the genius it has the potential to be. Don’t call our baby stupid or ugly.
February 3, 2012 at 11:03 am
Thank you Andrew. I agree that we don’t have to fear criticism, as it is only based on the fear of the critic.
When it comes to the ‘scientific realism’….I saw the trailer on The Human Centipede, and, man, that is a really SICK movie! And whether it is ‘realistic’ or not if a person is actually crazy enough to do something like that, I will not even think about. No matter how ‘medically correct’ it might be, it is certainly not realistic, to me at least.
About the ‘Africa scene’. There are extremely many scenes in films that are completely illogical and unlikely. But still, we accept them. Just look at films and try to use your analytical mind while looking, and you will constantly find illogical and ‘unlikely’ elements.
Take the Star Trek movie, for instance. When the young Kirk lands on the snow planet he finds the old Spock in a big ice cave after having been hunted to that exact cave by a huge monster. Now, how realistic is that….
Ok, he lands on the snow planet. Ok, there is a monster (Huh? Monster? On the south pole you can walk for weeks without seeing any living thing, and when/if you do, it certainly not a huge monster). And then this monster chases Kirk in the EXACT DIRECTION of the cave where Spok HAPPENS TO BE.
But, do we care? Not really. But why?
Because when watching films, one watches with ones feelings, rather than with ones logical reasoning. We are looking at the ACTION, we are not analyzing.
So, if there’s something slightly wrong with some logic in the Waking Up movie, I don’t think we have to worry.
Back to the ‘demolition scene’ in Africa. I can think of several likely reasons why Ben goes into that city. One is that HE IS STUBBORN and not used to the lenses.
There can be a scene where he removes all his CD outfit, to ‘take a brake from it’. He is not used to get augmented images in front of him all the time, and a voice talking to him unexpectedly in his ears. Thus HE DOESN’T GET THE INFO ABOUT THE CITY.
He can get the address on a piece of paper from someone. Then he can go to Africa on the ET3 transport system. And then on a self driven car of some sorts. The car can refuse to go into the city and say something about demolition. Still, Ben has come as far and he is not going to give up. HE IS STUBBORN. He goes out of the car and into the city by foot with the note with the address in his hand, looking for the street…
Or, better yet, there’s a shortage of self driven cars where he is, and/or the city is in a remote area, so he have to find some other means of transportation, and he finds and old beat up Jeep that runs on gas. Maybe his daughter managed to hide this city from the digital world map, so that she could stay there in peace, hiding from the powers that be that wanted to kill her. Thus, no info about this city is recorded on the Internet. It’s a small city, and not easy to find. He has to do research to find this city at all and finds it on an old map and drives there through hours on dusty roads, only to find it deserted. This sequence can stand as a nice contrast to the other hight tech scenes as well. What do you think?
In any case, we’ll get there. We’ll find the right thing for him to do. We’ll get the story in place.
February 5, 2012 at 6:02 am
Not too get off subject but if you thought Human Centipede was rough, don’t watch the sequel. I brought up the movie just to make a point about accuracy, not to praise the story. The fact is that some people are really sadistic in this world. The Human Centipede reference brings up an issue that our future society may or may not solve: certain people’s desire to cause harm to another. We may need to seek assistance from people in the psychological and medical fields for their projections and theories.
As for the illogical scenes in film, we have a difference in opinion. When something in a movie doesn’t make sense and the rest of the movie doesn’t bother to explain it, and fast, it takes me out of the film and breaks the spell the fiction had on me. The purpose of Waking Up is to show the audience a better way of life and get them to think that they could actually achieve it, or better, if they try. If we have moments in the story when the spell is broken, our message will be very difficult to express. Trekkies forgave the illogical scenes out of worship, film buffs don’t forgive or forget. I truly believe that if we want this film to be a success, accuracy is key.
On that note, I could be wrong about this but I don’t think that we will have MASTERED anti-gravity vehicles in 100 years. It just seems way too dangerous of a transportation to method to perfect in that amount of time. Think about all the preparation it would take before everyone became a pilot. Think about falling cars. I think we need to bridge the gap and showcase the bridge more than the other side. What most sci fi movies fail to do is get the audience to want to live in that world. Avatar achieved this. People were suffering from depression because they wanted so badly to live on Pandora. We will inspire more than depress because unlike Pandora, we can actually create our world just like the way we project it to be.
Free Energy is totally possible and is the only way an RBE can work, IMO.
The highly developed ET3 system is a better idea for the film than flying cars, also more unique. What about air travel can we evolve that? Security, borders, baggage, etc.
“taking a break for a bit” – excellent idea. Going “natural” is a great way to get Ben into the city without warnings.
I actually like the first idea better, the old jeep…why is it still around? why is there gas in it? why do we still have gas? Going in to the city on foot (or some kind of futuristic mountain bike – …it came with the car) seems more logical to me.
I like the idea of that sequence being in contrast to the rest of the world’s technology but I think I missed a part. Who wants to kill Biancha? Who are the powers that be? How does a doctor manipulate satellite images and hide her location from maps? How do we explain that?
Love your optimism, Harold. Great work everyone! It’s coming along…
February 6, 2012 at 10:09 am
I didn’t see the whole Human Centipede film, just the trailer, and that was more than enough. Maybe I’m a bit sensitive…
My point was that the whole concept for that film is unrealistic, at least to me, from the beginning, thus it is irrelevant whether it is ‘medically accurate’ or not. But we don’t have to go any further on this tangent.
But we DO agree about accuracy and logic. Yes, I absolutely WANT the most continuous logic and accuracy in the film as possible. My point was just that EVERYTHING DOESN’T HAVE TO BE EXPLAINED. And it for sure isn’t in most films.
Like, ‘why is there a gasoline car around?’. It not being explained doesn’t have to have any negative effect on the film. People won’t sit around thinking, ‘Nnnaaaahh! This film is shit! A gasoline car!? In that future!?! That’s completely unrealistic! I’m leaving!’.
It all depends on the context of how he finds that car and uses it. Everything depends on the context, and everything can not be explained. We won’t have time for that. For that matter, it might as well be an ‘old electric car’ he finds and drives on with.
As an example of another TV series I just saw here in Sweden that is ‘illogical’. It’s a series called ‘real humans’ (but in Swedish), where human looking robots (called ‘hubots’) live alongside and interact with humans in a world where obviously nothing else has developed technologically. It’s like the world of today, but with these Hubots in addition. These hubots walk, talk, act and look like humans, but with a little more ‘rubbery’ and smooth look on the skin. But, how likely is it that technology has had a ‘stand still’ on all other areas, but highly advanced robots has been developed? Not very likely. Still, it is intriguing to watch the interaction and story as it goes along. But, as said, I want to avoid this in the Waking Up movie. I’m just saying this to show that you can go very far and do a lot of ‘illogical’ things in even a ‘realistic’ film, and the audience won’t mind.
I’m glad you believe in some kind of ‘free energy’ in this future. I think it is totally possible too. I think some kind of ‘anti gravity’ also will be possible. Still, for the sake of this film, it might be more interesting to show some kind of mag lev, like the ET3 and other transportation.
Hey! What if anti grav is BEING DEVELOPED in this film, and Ben gets a look into that? He and Aweena could try one of the first AG (anti gravity) vehicles….and maybe something dramatic could happen to them while doing this, as the technology wasn’t quite ready yet…. Just an idea…
And what about air travel…? Are there any non-polluting airplanes, or…? If there isn’t AG, I suppose there are still a lot of flying transport.
“Security, borders, baggage”? Well, there aren’t any borders in this world, and no need for security. And baggage…? No need for a lot of baggage either, as most can be acquired at the place you arrive. You can ‘print out’ your clothes on any ‘hotel’.
The powers that be? CIA… This is the background story on what happened to Biancha and part of the reason why she changed her name and moved to a secret address. I meant that it can be a remote town/village in Africa that can be seen from satellite, but is not that mapped yet. If you, for example search for Soyo, Angola, and zoom in on that town, you will see that very few of the streets are mapped. Not that we will use that exact town, but just as an example, it IS possible to find ‘unmapped’ towns, and some that will probably be unmapped in a 100 years as well….
Thanks, man. Well, optimism is what this project and film is about!